Soros, NGOs and Western/foreign meddling in Macedonia

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  • George S.
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 10116

    good point bbs well put.For the same reasons i don't have a high regard for him that he would sell his own mother for euros.If we are a fraction smart we would not even contemplate changing our name let alone negotiating with the enemy.
    "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
    GOTSE DELCEV

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    • TrueMacedonian
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2009
      • 3812

      Originally posted by Bratot View Post
      Од институтот Тодор Александров информираат дека анкетата била спровведена кон крајот на месец Септември, а во истата биле опфатени 1004 испитаници. Анкета била на барање на институтот, а спроведена од агенцијата Брима Галуп

      51% од граганите, кои одговориле на анкетата на институтот Тодор Александров нема да подржат име кое би било заеднички предлог на сите македонски политички ...





      БРИМА е основана 1992 година како прва независна истражувачка агенција во Р Македонија, joint venture (партнерски односи) со GALLUP INTERNATIONAL .







      Is there some connection?
      We would need some help finding out. But anything is possible. I think we need to make everyone aware of how powerful Soros and his influence is.

      Pelister said;

      The push to build up public opinion for the break up of parts of Macedonia into a greater Albania, is being led by none other than Soros, although he wouldn't be the only one. What is interesting is that this organisation, and other anti-Macedonian organisations use terms such as 'multi-ethnic' and 'diversity' and even 'equality' as a mask for what are secessionist motives, and objectives.
      Prescisely. And we should keep an eye on another group which is in it to make a quick buck off of Macedonia - http://www.macedonia2025.com/about-u...anization.aspx

      The Origins of Macedonia 2025

      We all remember this famous quote, it was on January 20th, 1961, “Ask not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for your country” President Kennedy’s inauguration speech instilled in Americans a renewed sense of civic duty. Years later, this quote was repeated by another President hoping to garner a similar reaction.
      It was the spring of 2005 and it was President Crvenkovski who invoked that celebrated quote during a speech in front of the Macedonian community in Toronto. President Crvenkovski drew numerous comparisons with the Irish Diaspora and their involvement in turning around Ireland’s economy, with the potential and resources that exist in the Macedonian Diaspora.
      Upon the conclusion of the speech, a clearly inspired John Bitove Sr. quickly huddled up with other members in the audience and reinforced the President’s message. It was time for the Diaspora to answer the call and play its part in building a more prosperous Macedonia. Huddled up in that group were: Mike Zafirovski, Mitre Kutanovski, President Crvenkovski, and John Bitove Jr.
      The desire to help was unquestioned, but the challenge was developing an organization and infrastructure that would be able to harness the resources in the Diaspora and deliver that passion and commitment to Macedonia and Macedonians. A review was conducted on how other Diaspora communities have organized themselves to deliver that support, particular attention was given to the Irish, Estonian and Armenian communities.
      We used the success stories from those communities to build a solid foundation and with the help of other individuals Venko Gligorov, Susan Niczowski, Ljupco Naumovski, Ljuben Mitreski and Deyan Kostovski, Macedonia 2025 was born. The core objectives of the organization are: to help promote several key Macedonian industries, to help educate and inspire entrepreneurship, to help ensure an open and transparent democracy and to provide the Diaspora with an opportunity for business networking. All of these objectives help answer President Kennedy and Crevenkovski’s question “Ask not what Macedonia can do for you, ask what you can do for Macedonia?”
      Slayer Of The Modern "greek" Myth!!!

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      • kykypajko
        Banned
        • Apr 2009
        • 52

        Originally posted by Makedonska_Kafana View Post

        THIS IS NO JOKE AND WE MUST FIND OUT KOJ?

        YouTube - K-15, MyMacedonia!
        heheh jokes on you.....what you don't understand is that people in stari kraj laugh at nashi who act like you do

        има и скопско и прелепско и битолско има се убаво тука хајнекен и турборг има и све

        тате и јас ќе давам $10 долари

        --Блажо

        леле бре сега ќе те викам Блажо дека исто ко него не можиш да следиш македонски и најголем патриот си правиш од тугина. госпо да чуе колкави македонски има на интернет, спремани веднаш да се дераат ко абдули

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        • Makedonska_Kafana
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2010
          • 2642

          UMD puts the Honeymooners to shame!

          YouTube - Norton Captain Video video

          Border Police
          Last edited by Makedonska_Kafana; 11-23-2010, 01:10 AM.
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          Macedonia for the Macedonians

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          • Risto the Great
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2008
            • 15658

            Originally posted by kykypajko View Post
            heheh jokes on you.....what you don't understand is that people in stari kraj laugh at nashi who act like you do

            има и скопско и прелепско и битолско има се убаво тука хајнекен и турборг има и све

            тате и јас ќе давам $10 долари

            --Блажо

            леле бре сега ќе те викам Блажо дека исто ко него не можиш да следиш македонски и најголем патриот си правиш од тугина. госпо да чуе колкави македонски има на интернет, спремани веднаш да се дераат ко абдули
            kykypajko, any idea where the money went?


            Originally posted by kykypajko
            what you don't understand is that people in stari kraj laugh at nashi who act like you do
            Do they laugh at themselves for voting for the Ohrid Agreement? What a bunch of jokers.
            Risto the Great
            MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
            "Holding my breath for the revolution."

            Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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            • George S.
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2009
              • 10116

              i wonder how much euros he's given to macedonia??
              "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
              GOTSE DELCEV

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              • Bratot
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2008
                • 2855

                Originally posted by TrueMacedonian View Post
                We would need some help finding out. But anything is possible. I think we need to make everyone aware of how powerful Soros and his influence is.
                I think the questionary of this "Institute" which is on DPMNE side is going In Line with the mentioned effort of SOROS:

                Македонците ПРОТИВ промена на името, Албанците ЗА


                This is indication of SOROS invlovment in structures of DPMNE's goverment.


                Upon the conclusion of the speech, a clearly inspired John Bitove Sr. quickly huddled up with other members in the audience and reinforced the President’s message. It was time for the Diaspora to answer the call and play its part in building a more prosperous Macedonia. Huddled up in that group were: Mike Zafirovski, Mitre Kutanovski, President Crvenkovski, and John Bitove Jr.
                The desire to help was unquestioned, but the challenge was developing an organization and infrastructure that would be able to harness the resources in the Diaspora and deliver that passion and commitment to Macedonia and Macedonians. A review was conducted on how other Diaspora communities have organized themselves to deliver that support, particular attention was given to the Irish, Estonian and Armenian communities.
                We used the success stories from those communities to build a solid foundation and with the help of other individuals Venko Gligorov, Susan Niczowski, Ljupco Naumovski, Ljuben Mitreski and Deyan Kostovski, Macedonia 2025 was born. The core objectives of the organization are: to help promote several key Macedonian industries, to help educate and inspire entrepreneurship, to help ensure an open and transparent democracy and to provide the Diaspora with an opportunity for business networking. All of these objectives help answer President Kennedy and Crevenkovski’s question “Ask not what Macedonia can do for you, ask what you can do for Macedonia?”
                Crvenkovski and Gligorov took the deal with SOROS and members of SDSM founded the SOROS institution in Macedonia, as I already pointed out getting 7+ milions $ a year for their "projects".

                Venko Gligorov's Eurobalkan institute is also sponsored by Soros http://www.euba.edu.mk/mak/za_nas.asp?kat=4
                The purpose of the media is not to make you to think that the name must be changed, but to get you into debate - what name would suit us! - Bratot

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                • Bratot
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 2855

                  3. Џорџ Сорос не ѝ ставил на располагање на ФИООМ 812 илјади евра од Ургентниот фонд, како што тврдите вие. Џорџ Сорос создаде Ургентен фонд во износ од 100 милиони американски долари за 19 земји во кои спаѓа и Македонија.



                  А1 is financed by SOROS since it's begging


                  Соросоидите фатени во незаконско единство на печатени и електронски медиуми


                  Соросоидите со повеќе пари, и посилни и од владата!

                  The purpose of the media is not to make you to think that the name must be changed, but to get you into debate - what name would suit us! - Bratot

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                  • George S.
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 10116

                    Has anyone found oui why he is doing the things he has,for what gain.
                    "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
                    GOTSE DELCEV

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                    • Onur
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 2389

                      Originally posted by George S. View Post
                      Has anyone found oui why he is doing the things he has,for what gain.
                      Probably he is working for CIA. At least thats what i think.

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                      • Makedonska_Kafana
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2010
                        • 2642

                        Originally posted by Onur View Post
                        Probably he is working for CIA. At least thats what i think.
                        He had no choice in that matter - informant
                        http://www.makedonskakafana.com

                        Macedonia for the Macedonians

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                        • makedonin
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 1668

                          Soros is paying the half Balkan NGO's as far as I know. They are all his stooges, thats much is true.
                          To enquire after the impression behind an idea is the way to remove disputes concerning nature and reality.

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                          • Onur
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 2389

                            Originally posted by makedonin View Post
                            Soros is paying the half Balkan NGO's as far as I know. They are all his stooges, thats much is true.
                            AFAIK, His primal interests are Balkans and ex-USSR countries(mostly Turkic ones with energy sources). Some people also suspected from Soros about Kyrgyzstan havoc of few months ago.

                            He also had an office in Istanbul for few years too but there was non-stop protestations to his NGOs here and after few years, he had to close down his office here and then he left Turkey but ofc we cant be sure if he really shut down all his investments here or not since i am sure he has close friends/spies in every country. I remember that his NGO named "open society institude" constantly published reports about the Kurds here.
                            Last edited by Onur; 11-23-2010, 01:52 PM.

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                            • Makedonska_Kafana
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2010
                              • 2642

                              Originally posted by Onur View Post
                              AFAIK, His primal interests are Balkans and ex-USSR countries(mostly Turkic ones with energy sources). Some people also suspected from Soros about Kyrgyzstan havoc of few months ago.

                              He also had an office in Istanbul for few years too but there was non-stop protestations to his NGOs here and after few years, he had to close down his office here and then he left Turkey but ofc we cant be sure if he really shut down all his investments here or not since i am sure he has close friends/spies in every country. I remember that his NGO named "open society institude" constantly published reports about the Kurds here.
                              your information is solid, keep searching
                              http://www.makedonskakafana.com

                              Macedonia for the Macedonians

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                              • George S.
                                Senior Member
                                • Aug 2009
                                • 10116

                                I'm not surprised as the cia is behind everything evil.
                                "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
                                GOTSE DELCEV

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