Originally posted by Ljubanec
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Typical Balkan controversy about a simple but beautiful song
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Bringing a thread back from the dead. The original link to the clip looks like it has been deactivated, so here is another one:
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Aside from the less than admirable behaviour of those Serbs and Bulgars she came across, what caught my interest at 31:05 was the Bosnian lady in the clip who claims that this is a unique song from Sarajevo, yet when she recites a verse she sings "cvijete ubavi" (in the Bulgarian subtitle it translates as "tsvete moe ubavo"). Personally I couldn't care where the song originated from, I just found it interesting that she used the word "ubavo" in the same way as Macedonians and wondered if it is used in everyday speech by other Bosnians.In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.
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Originally posted by Bij View PostI am only going by memory from a few years ago but...In every country she visited, she did not seek out any experts. She merely gathered sentiment from locals, patriots, boozos and whackjobs. I'm sure if she sought experts in other countries, they too would have conceded the song is not their own (except for maybe Greece... we all know how they operate!).
In Greece this song is considered a traditional song from Smyrna. Today, it is popular in two different versions of lyrics; the documentary provides a third one from Lesvos, not so widely known in mainland Greece.
In case it matters, the exact origins of each song CAN be objectively traced if one looks for the earliest recordings or other historical references of the song in written sources.
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I see our music/songs being taken all the time being passed off as greek or bulgarian.I F You check on you tibe you will see music /dances as dedcribed as macefonian.eg golema svadba big wedding macedonian mic yet the bulgarians are happy to take it as their own.
stani mome da zaigrash.makedonsko devojche.greekd havr taken kafeani ochi tune brown eyes.THey put their own words.I wonder if there is such a thing as copyright.?"Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
GOTSE DELCEV
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Originally posted by George S. View PostI see our music/songs being taken all the time being passed off as greek or bulgarian.I F You check on you tibe you will see music /dances as dedcribed as macefonian.eg golema svadba big wedding macedonian mic yet the bulgarians are happy to take it as their own.
stani mome da zaigrash.makedonsko devojche.greekd havr taken kafeani ochi tune brown eyes.THey put their own words.I wonder if there is such a thing as copyright.?
The first one (for which there's also a popular Greek version) is a Turkish song (I thought).
The second song you mention (makedonsko devojche) I can't recognize it.
The third song (kafeani ochi?) is so misspelled that I can't find what you mean. Google and YouTube produce no results.
===Last edited by Amphipolis; 10-11-2015, 10:49 PM.
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Originally posted by Amphipolis View PostOf course there's no copyright for traditional songs (songs of unknown composer). I googled your titles to see if I know any of the songs, and if they are indeed Macedonian.
The first one (for which there's also a popular Greek version) is a Turkish song (I thought).
The second song you mention (makedonsko devojche) I can't recognize it.
The third song (kafeani ochi?) is so misspelled that I can't find what you mean. Google and YouTube produce no results.
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Try kafeavi ochi.Verata vo Mislite, VMRO vo dushata, Makedonia vo Srceto.
Vnatreshna Makedonska Revolucionerna Organizacija.
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Originally posted by VMRO View PostTry kafeavi ochi.
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No, it doesn't ring a bell. Some small parts seem probably close to something familiar but I can't figure out what.
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