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Old 11-21-2010, 06:41 PM   #5121
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Vangelovski:

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UMD: "...Originally Posted by UMDiaspora.org
UMD Reaffirms Request That President Obama Champion Macedonia's Accession to NATO; Refutes American Hellenic Institute
See: http://umdiaspora.org/content/view/520/1/...."
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Meto,

Thank you for the copy of your pathetic letter to Obama. What on earth was this all about:
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UMD: "....the government and the citizens of Macedonia have made herculean efforts and demonstrated remarkable patience -- over a period of almost 20 years-- to find a solution to the foregoing artificial issue. Nonetheless, Greece time and again has demonstrated its unwillingness to close this issue out. Instead, it has insisted on a moving target of concessions intended to string the matter out ad infinitum. Macedonia, in good faith, has made numerous concessions to placate Greece. However, patience has an end; time has run out on Greece’s intransigence and, importantly, its flouting of what is best for NATO and Southeast Europe...."
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Vangelovski: "This is standard vassal garbage straight from the Macedonian Government. It is nothing more than a legitimisation of the treason undertaken for the sake of vassal interests."

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UMD: "Macedonia, in good faith, has made numerous concessions to placate Greece."
In this letter the "UMD" have shown their true VASSAL colours and this info should be used to restrict, diminish and ultimately extinguish this extended arm of the treasonous Ramkovist VASSAL political establishment in Skopje and their puppet masters in Washington DC, amongst other places.

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Old 11-21-2010, 07:14 PM   #5122
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UMD does not know how to communicate in the English language because in order to get anything out of that memo one would need to stand on their head a spin backwards.

WTF is this?

- President Obama
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Old 11-21-2010, 07:34 PM   #5123
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UMD does not know how to communicate in the English language because in order to get anything out of that memo one would need to stand on their head a spin backwards.

WTF is this?

- President Obama
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"UMD": "Macedonia, in good faith, has made numerous concessions to placate Greece."
I think it is more than likely that the Ramkovist Ambassador in the US had a hand in drafting that letter or at least some Skopje Vassal apparatchik checked and approved it. Otherwise how else could ANY SANE Macedonian say "Macedonia, in good faith", entered the UN as FYROM, gave up the Macedonian nation's flag, changed its constitution so that it is forbidden to care about Macedonian national rights in the occupied native Macedonian lands, conceded Ancient Macedonian heritage, has its history books vetted by anti-Macedonians, signed the "Interim Accord", which says it must enter all international organisations as FYROM and agrees to negotiate a change in the state's name, and endures ALL the consequences arising out of all these capitulations. Thus according the "UMD" and the Ramkovists in Skopje, Macedonia "IN GOOD FAITH" committed, is committing and will continue to commit national deconstruction until its final demise!

What were these Macedonians protesting about in 1993?:






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Old 11-21-2010, 08:07 PM   #5124
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Your contribution, large or small, allows the UMD, a true global advocacy organization that relies on community donors, to be your voice in pressing the international community to:

* Stand up for truth, and against Greece's and Bulgaria's outright lies.

* Stand up for full civil rights of Macedonians living in Southeast Europe.

* Stand up for justice, and against the sacrifice of Macedonian rights.

* Stand up against foreign pressure.

* Stand up for your right to self-identify as Macedonian.

* Guarantee the territorial integrity of Macedonia.
These are some pretty bold claims.....especially claiming that one can guarentee the territorial integrity. Hope youre buying ammo with these donations.
Well, maybe now people will pay closer attention to what MANY of us have been saying - very big talkers with little results to back it up.

UMD is a NATO member?

How does that help the Diaspora - press coverage?

BREAKINGS NEWS

UMD READIES TO SEND MEMBERS TO PATROL GREEK/BULGARIA/ALBANIA BORDERS
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Old 11-21-2010, 08:07 PM   #5125
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To describe some of the beliefs and wishes, and grievances of Macedonians here, UMD uses terms such as 'hardliners'. Isn't it interesting that Macedonians here are asking for nothing less than our basic rights, legal, historical and political - no one has been advocating 'war' or an 'invasion' or anything of the sort. Macedonians at MTO have taken a principled legal and historical defence of our most basic rights, and UMD propoganda goes around recruiting young and impressionable Macedonians with their propoganda that we are 'hardliners' and that UMD are 'moderates'. UMD is good are muddying the waters, and very good at creating a public perception about itself that has nothing to do with the truth. Take a look at the terms and conditions of the Interim Accord, the Framework Agreement, the Negotiations Framework and UMD is either miraculously defending the most glaring anti-Macedonian terms (I mean terms that want us buried, and exterminated), or remaining ambiguously slient on them. The terms UMD use to describe us 'hardliners' and themselves 'moderates' is a deliberate distortion of the facts. Meto Koloski has repeatedly called for a NAME CHANGE. Isn't that something young UMD recruits, particularly here in Australia, should be suspicious of?

Alot of clever spin from UMD whose rhretoric will end up decieving many Macedonians, but the devil (critical contradictions) is once again in the detail.

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Old 11-21-2010, 08:14 PM   #5126
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p., after this last memo no one in their right mind will take them serious "guarentee the territorial integrity"

can you picture meto and aleksandar at the greek border dressed in suits holding laptops?
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Old 11-21-2010, 08:55 PM   #5127
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Ladies and gentlemen that post by the UMD is not only very poor judgement, it's very dangerous to make such bold claims - crossed the line of being an NGO and now have become extremists.

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Folks, life is short so please look after your own families and let the paid professionals handle these matters .. CIA, FBI, RCMP I& NTERPOL .. not the UMD board with your donations.
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Old 11-22-2010, 03:16 AM   #5128
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Okay, If anyone states the obvious you must back it up with the reasons why.

Q. Should the members of the UMD force Meto to resign after reading claims of "guarantee the territorial integrity" plus plus? Did he set someone else up SN to save his own ass?

Anyhow, he was the person who posted it on forums which means he backs it up with a "guarantee"

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Old 11-22-2010, 03:28 AM   #5129
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Meto you shallow puppet,

How are you 'standing up' for anything by promoting Macedonian entry into NATO under the name FYROM?

Which natural rights and freedoms do you think you are standing up for?

Do you even understand what natural rights, justice and freedom are? As is, your comments demonstrate that you do not.

Once the vassal politicians that you work for change Macedonia's name, what will be the purpose of your pathetic organisation then? What justice will it seek?
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Old 11-22-2010, 04:05 AM   #5130
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how many mto members are still members of umd & are using their umd credit cards to support the umd.Not me.
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