United Macedonia Diaspora

[indigen]

Originally Posted by Mikail

You are willing to learn

Did a brick drop from the sky and hit you in the head

Does this mean Armageddon is a myth??

Lets see how willing they (Meto and the Starbucks Kids) are "WILLING TO LEARN"?

Can you learn the following and stop being parrots for the Ramkovist political establishment in Macedonia and their Washington DC Puppet Masters?:

"....И, бидејќи повторувањето е мајка на знаењето, како што стопати повторена лага станува вистина, така и ние, со стопати повторена вистина, да се запамети, оти навистина повторувањето е мајка на знаењето, се’ друго е лага!

Да почнеме од почетокот... Македонија има едно и единствено име, за секоја употреба, во секое време и за дома и пред светот! Впрочем името не постои самите да се довикувате во огледало, туку по него другите во светот да Ве препознаваат. Македонија нема сложено или композитно име составено од два или повеќе збора! Она „Република“ не е дел од името, туку уставна референца пред државното име Македонија! Затоа и не сме „републичкомакедонци“, туку само Македонци! Македонија нема име за внатрешна и име за надворешна (меѓународна) употреба! Нашето државно име се состои само од еден единствен збор - зборот МАКЕДОНИЈА! .....Никогаш не смееме да заборавиме, дека Македонија во Обединетите Нации е примена под нејзиното државно име и со тоа име има право да аплицира за пристапување во сојузи на држави или за полноправно членство во сите меѓународни, мултилатерални и регионални организации и институции, независно дали Грција во нив е член или не е!....."

Пишува: Тодор ПЕТРОВ
АТИНА БАРА МАКЕДОНИЈА ДА БИДЕ СЕВЕРНА, АМА ВО ГРЦИЈА НЕМА ЈУЖНА! - Прв дел

[UMDiaspora.org]

За жал Македонија е примена во Обединетите Нации под референцата. Затоа мора Македонија да се повлечи од преговорите и да ре-аплицира под нејзиното уставно име Република Македонија преку резолуција усвоена од мнозинството држави во Генералното Собрание во ОН.

[indigen]

Originally Posted by UMDiaspora.org

За жал Македонија е примена во Обединетите Нации под референцата. Затоа мора Македонија да се повлечи од преговорите и да ре-аплицира под нејзиното уставно име Република Македонија преку резолуција усвоена од мнозинството држави во Генералното Собрание во ОН.

Учи, учи тиква бучи!

Толку од тоа "we are willing to learn"!

[Risto the Great]

Originally Posted by UMD in What Do the U.S. Midterm Elections Mean for Macedonia?

UMD looks forward to working with the new Congressional leadership, and it is our hope that they will honor their predecessors' commitments to Macedonia, as well as their open door to UMD.

Is the commitment the one about the USA being committed to using whatever name is decided between Macedonia and Greece?

[UMDiaspora.org]

To our knowledge, U.S. policy has been to refer to Macedonia as Macedonia since 2004, and will continue to be for centuries to come. We hope that Australia will follow suit.

[UMDiaspora.org]

Originally Posted by indigen

Учи, учи тиква бучи!

Толку од тоа "we are willing to learn"!

Уставот на Република Македонија пишува дека името на Република Македонија е Република Македонија. Што ти бучи тебе?

[indigen]

Originally Posted by UMDiaspora.org

Уставот на Република Македонија пишува дека името на Република Македонија е Република Македонија. Што ти бучи тебе?

Mi izgleda deka vie ne ste Meto. Ako ste Meto, togash mozhe da se pretpostavi deka mozhebi ste ekstremno tupi ili arogantno se drzhite na vashite anti-makedonski politichki pozicii!

Ako ne ste Meto, odete na uchenje tuka!

TODOR ALEKSANDROV

“... A lifelong believer in the creed of “Macedonia for the Macedonians”....

“...He declares that the population will not tolerate being ruled by Serbians, Greeks, Bulgarians...”

... He has only one idea, and that is the ultimate proclamation of an autonomous Macedonia with its capital at Salonika. He declares that the population will not tolerate being ruled by Serbians, Greeks, Bulgarians, and that as the two former countries have refused to allow the people any liberty in speech or religion, only an armed struggle can bring them what they want.....”
[The London Times Jan 4 1924]

Kaj gledate vo toj creed of “Macedonia for the Macedonians” vrska so nekakvo si "Ustavno Ime"?

[Vangelovski]

Originally Posted by UMDiaspora.org

За жал Македонија е примена во Обединетите Нации под референцата. Затоа мора Македонија да се повлечи од преговорите и да ре-аплицира под нејзиното уставно име Република Македонија преку резолуција усвоена од мнозинството држави во Генералното Собрание во ОН.

Meto,

I'm not sure if this is your own idea or if you're obtaining some hack legal advice. Either way, its an immature and irresponsible one. The reasons as to why have been put to you a number of times, and you are either stupid or pretending to be stupid.

You may not hold this view, but the majority of Macedonians want a free republic governed by the people. We are not interested in being dictated to by either indiferrent foreign powers, our oppressors that seek to destroy us, or their mindless lackeys both in Macedonia and the diaspora.

You have done nothing but attempt to convince the Macedonian people that they need to live like slaves in order to obtain economic "benefits". I find it so hard to believe that an American would have that mindset, and yet here you are, living proof.

You have declared a war on the Macedonian people, on freedom and on natural law. Have a good think about what you are opposing and what you are supporting.

[Vangelovski]

A sample of "facts" provided by UMD

- Greece and the Republic of Macedonia have yet to reach a mutually acceptable solution on this issue, although U.N.-mediated negotiations continue.

- The Republic of Macedonia has always taken the position that it does not hold exclusive rights over the name Macedonia in geographic, cultural, historic, or commercial terms.

- The UN-brokered Interim Agreement forced upon the Republic of Macedonia in 1995 as an end to the Greek Embargo achieved several Greek aims including:

1. a tentative reference term for the Republic of Macedonia at the UN and within certain international bodies, and

2. new national symbols for the Republic of Macedonia unrelated to the historic Macedonian reality.

3. Amendments to the Republic of Macedonia’s Constitution reinforcing the “no-change” of borders provision contained therein without a corresponding amendment to the Constitution of Greece.

- However, throughout this humiliation, Macedonia has revealed itself as more than willing to compromise by proposing a resolution to the “name dispute.”

http://umdiaspora.org/content/view/241/51/

What exactly is UMD promoting?

[Risto the Great]

Originally Posted by UMDiaspora.org

To our knowledge, U.S. policy has been to refer to Macedonia as Macedonia since 2004, and will continue to be for centuries to come. We hope that Australia will follow suit.

Can you confirm on 7 March 2008, the US Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs, Daniel Fried, made an unscheduled visit to Skopje, with the message that the two sides must cooperate with Matthew Nimetz to find a mutually acceptable solution for the naming dispute?

If he was there to convey USA policy, then the message is clear ... change your name.

http://macedonia.usembassy.gov/usfrieda1tv.html

Journalist: Central topic in your talks today in Skopje I assume it was the name issue. Do you see a possibility in the next 30 days, until the NATO summit for the problem to be solved and Macedonia to receive the NATO invitation?
Fried: Yes, if there is enough political leadership and political will, I think so. NATO membership, which is what this is about, means that the United States of America, the most powerful country in the world will pledge itself to defend Macedonia and it means that the other great nations of Europe: United Kingdom, Germany, France, Italy, Spain and all of your neighbors will equally pledge to be allies. That is a great achievement and I hope that Macedonia and Greece can work through this problem. It is possible that there will not be success but think about it, you are so close, you are so close. I was at the NATO ministerial yesterday with Secretary Rice, and there was a strong sentiment in the room for Macedonia and so with this opportunity so close, I wish, I strongly wish that leaders will stand up and say: let’s solve this problem and let’s bring our country forward to NATO and into Europe.

The Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs is a position within the American Department of State that leads the Bureau of European and Eurasian Affairs charged with implementing American foreign policy in Europe and Eurasia, and with advising the Under Secretary for Political Affairs on matters relating to diplomatic missions within that area.




"Centuries to come" is awfully optimistic given the USA policy which is that they will call Macedonia as whatever is agreed between Greece and Macedonia. It is a far cry from calling Macedonia as Macedonia irrespective of some bi-lateral spat.