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View Poll Results: Do you consider the UMD as your representative for the Macedonian Diaspora? | |||
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2 | 4.35% |
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44 | 95.65% |
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#4721 |
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Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Toronto, Ontario. Canada
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![]() They're not a lobby group, or have they changed?
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#4722 |
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Location: Toronto, Ontario. Canada
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![]() ![]() They're not a lobby group, or have they changed? |
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#4723 |
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Join Date: Sep 2008
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![]() Who knows? They started out as a lobby group. Now they're not apparently?
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From the village of P’pezhani, Tashko Popov, Dimitar Popov-Skenderov and Todor Trpenov were beaten and sentenced to 12 years prison. Pavle Mevchev and Atanas Popov from Vrbeni and Boreshnica joined them in early 1927, they were soon after transferred to Kozhani and executed. As they were leaving Lerin they were heard to shout "With our death, Macedonia will not be lost. Our blood will run, but other Macedonians will rise from it" |
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#4724 |
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![]() Change is good as long as it not done daily : )
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#4725 |
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Join Date: Mar 2010
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![]() When ever I hear the term U.S.-Macedonian it essentially means what the US thinks is important for itself and then Macedonia
I just hope the UMD can be more like the Jewish lobby selfish for our Interests not Americans which support us changing the name of our Country and Soul |
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USA LOOKS OUT FOR THE USA NOT MACEDONIA. FREE US PARKING IN THE BALKANS |
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If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14 The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John Adams Last edited by Vangelovski; 10-26-2010 at 08:32 PM. |
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#4728 |
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Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Australia
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![]() Tom, I picked up on the duplicity and contradictions some time ago. You should read the UMD Press Release about calling for an end to the talks. Its only when you get down to the fine print at the end of the article, that you realise UMD has entirely contradicted the content in the first half of its text.
Have UMD been honest about anything? Last edited by Pelister; 10-26-2010 at 08:23 PM. |
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#4729 |
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Join Date: May 2009
Location: makedonska colonia
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![]() Its such a shame the UMD have the potential to have the backing of the entire Macedonian diaspora globally if the voice of the diaspora was upheld and honoured. They have the potential to effect change with RoM and the potential to have every Macedonian behind them if they were affiliated with the Macedonian cause.
I dont understand how RoM is backed to the hilt with every stupid idiotic policy change and this business of ALbanian studied to university level MUST CEASE IMMEDIATELY. I f the Albanian government is denying Macedonians study classes in the Macedonian language and using genocidic tactics against our minority in mala Prespa, then why the fuck is RoM continuing its support of the Albanian refugees and minorities , especially in regards to their inclusion as a minority group in the census??? When is Macedonia going to wake up and smell the roses and stop being pricks and thorns against its own people? Why is their a census being held in Macedonia? Especailly when anarchy will prevail as I know many Macedonians within RoM that will not lie down for the Albanians anymore. Why is Macedonia still continuing its fucked up negotations process? STOP> stop negotiating our name and identiry for the love of God In the year 2010, we our very identity is hanging by a thread I am tired of reading bullshit scare mongering tactics from some on this forum that state change is coming and they must enter the EU and NATO and enter under a different name. What the fuck for? Its like we are poised on a tightrope that is about to snap, walking along it , hanging by a thread because we must. Dont walk the tightrope. Encourage trade and foreign economic investment and Macedonia, I have always said is paradise on earth. Beautiful. Underdeveloped with the promotion of tourism. We have open borders, no requirement for visas, what is the EU for? UMD, if you want your organisation to flourish and grow, then the voice of the Macedonian diaspoa must be heard. Not the voice of corrupt officials and politicians in RoM that are only interested in retiring outside of RoM. They dont care for our name or identity. We do. UMD must stop abiding by the framework agreement and endorsing the interim accord. UMD must stop abiding by the wishes of a handful of public servants within RoM and start acting and listening to the diaspora. There are so many intelligent and well educated Macedonian people out there, that would do anything to retain our identity, our name, and fight for our basic human rights for our minorities, for the acknowledgment of our very existence. UMD will not flourish, there are too many people that are very disappointed with the lack of transparency. Reading Pelister's comments disappoints me further, about back room handshakes to the detriment of our very survival. It is the diaspora that needs to influence the decisionmakers within RoM. Not RoM influencing the diaspora, namely UMD No prefixes, no suffixes, no more changing flags or endorsing the framework agreement, no more negotatiating. That is the only way we can work collaboratively for the most important thing most of us hold in our hearts, our soul , and carry in our blood. For the love of God, for us. Macedonians
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#4730 | |
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Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: United States, Australia, Canada
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In 1991, Macedonia's Parliament passed its constitution stating "Macedonia has been constituted as a national state of the Macedonian nation in which full civic equality and permanent co-living is secured to the Macedonian people and the Albanians, the Turks, the Vllachs, the Romas and the other nationalities living in the Republic of Macedonia." Macedonia has always been home to Macedonians, Albanians, etc...and "Albanian" has always been on the Macedonian census. This is not something the Framework Agreement decided. In addition, Albanians have always had full rights in Macedonia and always had the right to study Albanian in primary, secondary school, etc... So how does UMD promote the Framework Agreement by stating an obvious that has been in existence since 1991? An obvious, which unfortunately is not the same for Macedonians in Albania.
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