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Old 11-16-2010, 12:09 PM   #5021
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Send me your name and number and I will have Metodija call you. I cannot answer in his name.
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I said to you in my post I want to keep everything open and will not email you anything. Do NOT PM again on this matter. You have a thread where you can post your replies.

Now if you got this Private Message what would you think MTO.

Metodija cannot find time even though I said take another 10 days to reply online from the comfort of his desk or if mobile surely he would have internet connection wherever he is but instead will find some time presumably in those 10 days to telephone me at international call rates. I feel so special.

I can only wonder how special I am. Rather than name and number only would also surname address and drivers licence be better for you purposes…we don’t have formal id cards and drivers licences are used as a de facto id card. Just give me time to unbutton my shirt when you rack me down…I wouldn’t want to get any blood on it. Bloods a bitch to get out.

It was a simple question. In my last post to you…if you are capable to comprehend it…I virtually gave you three answers you could say to me and gave you a reason why you should ie reputations matter. If you are too thick to take a gift horse then forge about it and let your filthy comments stand on their merits…its your reputation at stake not mine.

The cause will move on with or without you not that you have been much help to date. I’m still waiting to see the UMD refute the idiocies by that Bulgarian Balkan history professor living and working in England. I told you we cant just call a press conference. You position gives you a unique way to help but your responses to date clearly speak for themselves.
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Old 11-16-2010, 02:39 PM   #5022
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OziMak,

Meto wants to speak to you in private so he can tell you what you want to hear, not what he actually thinks. That way he can not be held publically accountable.
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Old 11-16-2010, 04:44 PM   #5023
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Ozimak, reading your earlier posts and your support of the UMD, and reading them now, shows a marked 180 degree turn .
Any organisation that cannot answer simple questions in an open forum shows they are not transparent in their dealings. No one has refuted they are Masons. This is a conflict of interest. They are working contra to the Macedonian cause, and show this in their blatant support of the IA and all in the name of the global Macedonian diaspora. UMD do not show financila statements either, so their members are not funding Macedonian interests, but rather blatantly in support of their Masonic sect.
They are not the diaspora. They have hidden agendas and self serving interests, to the detriment of our Macedonian identity. Their member base would be dwindling markedly and will continue to do so, they had the opportunity to redeem themselves and absolve themselves with their mistakes and they chose not to do this, but rather plant derelicts like scredriver on the forum to hellenise our member names. The MTO is far reaching and very widely read, and Macedonians, and supporters of our people are waking up to what the UMD stands for. They are CONTRA Macedonian, and ANTI Macedonian, particularly in their blatant support of the Bugarphile MPO
I take it from reading your posts, Ozimak, you are somewhat disappointed in your original assessment of the UMD. I, like yourself, as our adminsitrators, called for unity and support, and awoke from my brainwashed slumber. Welcome home OM
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Old 11-16-2010, 04:51 PM   #5024
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OziMak,

Meto wants to speak to you in private so he can tell you what you want to hear, not what he actually thinks. That way he can not be held publically accountable.
I don't know what Meto wants to do but I would think things said by anyone in private are often a waste of time and cannot be relied upon. Gone are the days of nudge nudge wink wink. We have seen enough Macedonian politician "patriots" who have turned into Bulgars/Serbs/Americans to know that talk is cheap .... especially when people cannot be held to account.
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Old 11-16-2010, 04:55 PM   #5025
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I don't know what Meto wants to do but I would think things said by anyone in private are often a waste of time and cannot be relied upon. Gone are the days of nudge nudge wink wink. We have seen enough Macedonian politician "patriots" who have turned into Bulgars/Serbs/Americans to know that talk is cheap .... especially when people cannot be held to account.
In retrospect YouTube hasn't helped the UMD as they may have first believed. it's PROOF

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One last question? Is the UMD involved (promoters) of the Ferus New Years Eve Party in Toronto?

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Old 11-16-2010, 06:19 PM   #5026
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The government has never said they will do his and anyone taking this position is definitely overstepping anything anyone on the Macedonian side has said.
Actually, YOU are WRONG - MFA (and others in the "Macedonian" Gov.) has said exactly that! THUS "UMD" is in FULL SYNCH with the "Macedonian" Government and other VASSAL politicians and their puppet masters in Washington DC.
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Old 11-18-2010, 03:08 PM   #5027
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Meto is young and he has made some mistakes. The way you pirhanas are attacking him is far more counterproductive than any statements Meto has made in the past.

UMD: do you as of November 2010 want to change the name of the Macedonian state. If the answer is no, everyone can shut up and move on. That is the bottom line.

Shame on you all, you turn a blind eye to the blatent and viscious racism being advertised on this website. Rants about Greeks being animals and Albanians being scum. Is the exposition of such laments from this website not counterproductive?=Do you not care about how other people who read this website will view the Macedonian cause in light of the constant exposition of blatent racism?

The fact that many of you cannot see this dumfounds me. Ya, keep harping about what Meto said during coffee in 2007 and what Serbian song Meto danced to you super patriots.
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Old 11-18-2010, 05:09 PM   #5028
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Meto is young and he has made some mistakes. The way you pirhanas are attacking him is far more counterproductive than any statements Meto has made in the past.

UMD: do you as of November 2010 want to change the name of the Macedonian state. If the answer is no, everyone can shut up and move on. That is the bottom line.

Shame on you all, you turn a blind eye to the blatent and viscious racism being advertised on this website. Rants about Greeks being animals and Albanians being scum. Is the exposition of such laments from this website not counterproductive?=Do you not care about how other people who read this website will view the Macedonian cause in light of the constant exposition of blatent racism?

The fact that many of you cannot see this dumfounds me. Ya, keep harping about what Meto said during coffee in 2007 and what Serbian song Meto danced to you super patriots.
Oh please, another apologetic moron slithers in. I couldn't care if Meto is young and has made mistakes, we aren't his parents and this isn't a kid's sports game. Nor are you his parents, stop making excuses for him and let him face up to his mistakes. If he had done this when initially asked, this would be a non-issue, but the guy lacks transparency and clowns like you who support his approach only encourage him to be a greater liar. Shame on you.

By the way, this is an open forum, we cannot prevent people from stating their opinions against groups that are known to have been enemies of the Macedonian people. The official line of the MTO is stated through administrative channels, and we don't condonde racism. How dare you come here with your pathetic rant and try to score points with the ignorant by defending Macedonia's detractors. Why don't you say something about all of the Greek and Albanian racists that have frequented our forum? A word of advice, it would be good for manipulative morons like you to cite statements in their proper contexts. If you've come here to pick up where that previous fool named screwdriver left off, then you're visit will be shorter than his.

I just read your maiden post, now I remember you, the protector of compromising traitors:

http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum...3244#post63244
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Many of you claim that ethnic Macedonians existed for centuries even though they had no official state or homeland. Most recently Macedonians resided in Yugoslavia. Before that it was the Ottoman empire. If the ancestors of Macedonians resided under such conditions (ie no nation state as their own) for centuries while maintaining their identity and culture then how can the current ethnic Macedonian identity be compromised by adding a prefix/suffix to the name of the country? After all, three decades ago Macedonians lived in Yugoslavia, yet they maintained their identity.
Compromising fools like you are the greatest enemies of the Macedonian people.
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Old 11-18-2010, 05:21 PM   #5029
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UMD: do you as of November 2010 want to change the name of the Macedonian state. If the answer is no, everyone can shut up and move on. That is the bottom line.
No it is not. It is more about why he can't come clean about his previous sentiments on the matter and why he continues to support such stupidities as recent as last week.

We do not need any Greeks to question the agenda of real Macedonians. Why don't you go and steal something somewhere else?

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Shame on you all, you turn a blind eye to the blatent and viscious racism being advertised on this website. Rants about Greeks being animals and Albanians being scum. Is the exposition of such laments from this website not counterproductive?=Do you not care about how other people who read this website will view the Macedonian cause in light of the constant exposition of blatent racism?
Yep, you will need hard facts to prove this. Just saying it does not mean it is true Stavro. Further, any sentiments about the MTO can be accurately measured by the comments of the administrators. Would you care to compare comments made by administrators on this forum with that of Greek forums?

You might remember when I personally rang the death bell for the Maggots on the web forum. You silly guys.
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Old 11-18-2010, 05:47 PM   #5030
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UMD Reaffirms Request That President Obama Champion Macedonia's Accession to NATO; Refutes American Hellenic Institute
See: http://umdiaspora.org/content/view/520/1/

Canadian National Defence Committee Vice-Chair Bryon Wilfert Urges Support of Macedonia
See: http://umdiaspora.org/content/view/519/1/

Four U.S. Senators Urge President Obama to Support Macedonia’s NATO Membership at Lisbon Summit
See: http://umdiaspora.org/content/view/517/1/

Pismo isprateno od francuski pratenik do Sarkozy za Makedonija
See: http://umdiaspora.org/content/view/516/1/
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