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Old 01-11-2010, 05:59 AM   #1001
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Are you for real????? I don't know whether to laugh or cry....
Buktop did mention something in another thread about waiting for the circus to come around...I didn't understand what he meant at the time but its as clear as day now...Buktop's a clown and he wants to join a circus...
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Old 01-11-2010, 06:03 AM   #1002
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If they this it should be done and we should send Macedonians to Afganistan to die why don't they go? Why send our brothers or cousins who went into the Army to defend their country not go and take lifes of innocent people. The war in Afganistan is wrong and agains all human laws and illegal. Why would I want Macedonia or Macedonian brave soldiers to be invloved in something like this? Ni go crni imeto.
The Macedonian army is a fully professional army, any one who is a member of the army chose to be there. They want to fight and protect Macedonia. And they chose to be in a combat position.

Whether you like it or not, you have no say in what the army does. I know a lot of people who are in Afghanistan and Irag right now, both Macedonian and American, and each and every one of them knew the choice they made by joining the army.

My position has been defined, there is no way to explain it any further.
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Old 01-11-2010, 06:11 AM   #1003
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The Macedonian army is a fully professional army, any one who is a member of the army chose to be there. They want to fight and protect Macedonia. And they chose to be in a combat position.

Whether you like it or not, you have no say in what the army does. I know a lot of people who are in Afghanistan and Irag right now, both Macedonian and American, and each and every one of them knew the choice they made by joining the army.

My position has been defined, there is no way to explain it any further.
Buktop, how are Macedonian troops defending Macedonia in Afghanistan...and don't give me the bullshit line about "training"

Its not about that you American arse licker...
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Old 01-11-2010, 06:15 AM   #1004
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Our Army is to defend, since when do you think it's ok to send your troops to a unjust war? Are you not ashamed that we are part of that? You should be. We have no business in Afganista, the war in Afganistan in illegal. We should never be a part of anything like that. It's a selfish world I know but we are getting nothing from it anyway. I don't have a saying in it Buktop but I am ashamed that Macedonians go on to kill innocent people in their country and take their last hope. I am ashamed of it and I will not shut up about it. I will never side with murderers, no matter if they are Macedonian or if they are Albanian, or if they are my family or not. The people of Afganistan have done nothing wrong to the Macedonian people, we should stay out of it. The people of Afganistan are victims of America and now us too. Shamefull
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Old 01-11-2010, 06:19 AM   #1005
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Buktop, show us exactly where/when UMD denounced the Interim Accord and Framework Agreement. Or do you speak for UMD now?
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when Macedonian authorities, under clear duress, were forced into signing an unfair and imbalanced Interim Accord with Athens. This agreement is unique, as it is the first instance in history where one state is actively denying another state’s sovereign right to name itself, in direct defiance of the UN Charter and its guarantees of national self-determination. Ironically, Athens demands that negotiations on Macedonia’s name continue under the same UN auspices, which it violated in 1995.
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Why don't you show us this so called support of the Interim accord and Ohrid framework that you keep claiming exists? If it is so obvious, surely you could show us?
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Old 01-11-2010, 06:28 AM   #1006
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I can confirm a brisk walk from Canberra to Melbourne takes a little bit of time.
And? Do you know what the walk is like from New Jersey to Toronto?

So Vangelovski considers himself a Macedonian activist but cannot be bothered to attend an event when the Macedonian Prime Minister decides to attend Australia. Jeez I must be a clown for thinking that someone so important would attend an event so meaningless...

You know, I really don't know what to think anymore. We have Phoenix and Vangelovski crying about injustice and betrayal, and yet they don't even have the time to get their lazy asses off their computer chairs and attend an event where the PRIME MINISTER attends THEIR country. I guess you could always fly to Macedonia and talk with Gruevski there, that might be cheaper and a shorter distance huh.....?
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Old 01-11-2010, 06:30 AM   #1007
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In a republican government who votes for Parliamentarians? Why do they vote for Parliamentarians? What is the Parliament for? Come on now Vangelovski don't play dumb.
By the way Vangi, you almost got away with avoiding these questions. Perhaps we could avoid this whole argument if you answered them...
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Old 01-11-2010, 06:33 AM   #1008
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Buktop, how are Macedonian troops defending Macedonia in Afghanistan...and don't give me the bullshit line about "training"

Its not about that you American arse licker...
Bullshit huh? Why don't you watch the video of their training with the Vermont national guard, or any of the other videos that were posted. You really have no clue do you?
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Old 01-11-2010, 06:33 AM   #1009
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Jankovska, You where the one who is so against Ohrid, who do you go there for the city or the people?? In Summer time, Ohridsko is full of Skopjani and Bitolchani. Biri kolku sakash
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Old 01-11-2010, 06:35 AM   #1010
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Bucktop,

You're not only an international law expert, a constitutional law expert, a political scientist, but also a military specialist now...Wow!
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