Macedonians in Russian and other "slavic" Sources

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  • Pelister
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 2742

    #16
    This is great stuff Serdarot.

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    • Serdarot
      Member
      • Feb 2010
      • 605

      #17
      Originally posted by osiris View Post
      serdarot please dont take offense at my suggestion, you are posting very important stuff here and it should be as accessible as possible to all our readers, thats as all i meant.
      no offence felt at any moment, bro, i am very aware that many Macedonians not only can´t not read Cirilic, they can not also speak / understand Macedonian, but they will learn with the time

      And we can try help as much we can with searching, translating, etc, etc...

      Also, if we keep researching, thinking, writing, speaking, exchanging knowledge and experiance, and develope ourself, our enemies can blow in our "bagpipes"

      Makedonskata dUma i Makedonija (so Makedonci) ke Zivee :rmacedonia

      /offtopik on:

      And We are not Alone.

      Beside some "dark moments" in the History, and crimes made from our neighbors, there are groups developing and "traditionaly having" some strong relations with each of them, not speaking about the pathetic "-mani" or "-fili", but normal friendships, mixed marriages, migrants / settlers, etc.

      We actualy have supporters and friends in many countries / nations, sometime in far away places like Japan, Finland, "somewhere-on-earth-stan".

      So it we stand solid on our ground and don´t accept some humiliating change of National / Ethnic Name , Identity, language name, and state it clear to all our neighbors that they all had their Times of Glory in the History, but should take their hands away from Our part, Name, Identity, complete Historical and Cultural Heritage, sooner or later they will have to "swallow" it on one or other way.

      Specialy those who alredy changed their name in some earlier times

      The History is clearly showing that when someone is trying to rule us, b-sh1t is happening not only there.


      /offtopik off :P

      PoZdrav
      Bratot:
      Никој не е вечен, а каузава не е нова само е адаптирана на новите услови и ќе се пренесува и понатаму.

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      • osiris
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2008
        • 1969

        #18
        and many more non macedonians come to this forum too.

        hey its good stuff please keep it up

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        • Serdarot
          Member
          • Feb 2010
          • 605

          #19
          About Aleksandar Makedonski

          Библиотека для чтения, Band 171 , 1862

          About Aleksandar... How he was called


          "prosto Aleksandro(m) Makedonski(m)"
          (simply Aleksandro Makedonski)



          Macedonia AND Grecia, Aleksandar on Macedonian Throne, the Greek rebellion in South.

          Also VERY important, to notice that he / they faced danger from the "Barbarski sosedi na Sever" (Barbaric neighbors from the north) , and for the Paeonians, Tribales, Slavonians / Panonians it could not be said they were "barbaric" or hostile. (in that period)



          And the Macedonians... who got close with the Persians



          Makedoniani -> Makedonjani = Macedonians
          Last edited by Serdarot; 04-07-2010, 11:13 PM.
          Bratot:
          Никој не е вечен, а каузава не е нова само е адаптирана на новите услови и ќе се пренесува и понатаму.

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          • Serdarot
            Member
            • Feb 2010
            • 605

            #20
            Чтения в императорском обществе истории и древностей российских при московскему универзитету - 1866

            Book 4‎ - Pages 14-15-16 and etc.

            Ельпидифор Васильевич Барсов, Императорское общество истории и древносте и росси иских (Москов, Р.С.Ф.С.Р.)

            picture 1 + picture 2:

            - writing about the Christians who were tortured / killed / expelled by the Bulgarian Knez Mortagon (O-Murtag-on), it says big part of them were "rodom Slavjani" (ethnic Slavs? lol ), who were expelled from Thrakia / Macedonia, but had their origins in Macedonia ("proizhodili iz Makedonii" = originate / come from Macedonia) ... (Macedonians? )

            - from the same "Slavjani" (Macedonians?) comes the later Emperor Vasilie / Basileus

            -writing about "Slavs" Christians in Grecia, who used the "greek" cript, JUST as the Croats, Cheh and other used Latin, till Metodie´s time.

            * - writing about the "Slavic" roots of Justinian






            Macedonian "slavs" obviously not equal with Bulgars, probably hostile to eachother periodicaly, paid them tributes / taxes...

            Last edited by Serdarot; 04-08-2010, 11:29 AM.
            Bratot:
            Никој не е вечен, а каузава не е нова само е адаптирана на новите услови и ќе се пренесува и понатаму.

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            • Bratot
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2008
              • 2855

              #21
              В древнерусской церковной практике буква шта ù (øò), обозначавшая звук в соответствии с указанными праславянскими сочетаниями, читалась как [ш?т?ш?]. По мнению А. М.
              Селищева, такое чтение установилось
              под влиянием македонских книжников,
              распространявших грамотность в Древней Руси в конце X-XI веке и именно так произносивших этот звук в своем родном говоре. На Руси книжное произношение [ш?т?ш?] имело искусственный характер. Оно не совпадало ни со старославянской традицией, ни с древнерусским разговорным употреблением.

              The purpose of the media is not to make you to think that the name must be changed, but to get you into debate - what name would suit us! - Bratot

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