Matija Antun Relković - Satir iliti divji čovik

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  • Serdarot
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    • Feb 2010
    • 605

    Matija Antun Relković - Satir iliti divji čovik

    I dont know if you know this poem.

    Matija Antun Relković - Satir iliti divji čovik



    http://hr.wikisource.org/wiki/Satir/1._dio/I.

    Singing to "Slavonija" , an area in Croatia. Or maybe even some wider, "hidden" meaning?

    i guess some of you dont understand serbo-croatian, so i´ll translate some parts later.

    insert of the first part

    Bog je tebe lipo namirio
    i svakakvim plodom nadilio,
    da ti rodi vino i pšenica,
    kom se hrani i junak i ptica;
    marvu dao od svakakve fele:
    konje, vole, svinje, ovce, pčele.
    Imala si prid ovim junake,
    kako kaže pismo i kronike,
    koji uvik slavno vojevaše,
    ovo ime Slavonci dobiše
    s Aleksandrom od Macedonije
    ,
    koji njima dade dopuštenje
    baš u pismu tako govoreći:
    "Da ne može nitko posli reći
    neg da ste nam bili pomoćnici
    i hrabreni na glasu vojnici,
    jerbo ste nam uvik bili virni,
    pribivajte u kraljevstvu mirni
    .
    Pa ako vam koji narod dojde,
    i med vami pribivati pojde,
    uzmite ga vi za vaše kmete,
    nek da harač, a ne čini štete.
    Za svidočbu svih oblasti ovi'
    zaklinjam se velikomu Jovi,
    i tako mi Pluta i Minerve,
    ne sumljite u tomu ni mrve!
    Nek je svidok haznadar Atleta,
    da vam nitko u tomu ne smeta".
    Posli toga u mlogo vrimena,
    ti promini i mlogo imena,
    jer s početka Slovinci se zvaše,
    pak poslije Slavinci prozvaše;
    je l' od slova ovo ime došlo,
    il od slave nazivanje pošlo
    ,
    znati nije, jer je bilo davno,
    niki pišu, al je vrlo tavno.
    Ilirijo za time postade
    i kraljevat nad Slavinci stade:
    on jih tada Iliri prozvaše
    i svoje jim ime nadivaše
    .

    .
    Last edited by Serdarot; 04-04-2010, 07:31 AM.
    Bratot:
    Никој не е вечен, а каузава не е нова само е адаптирана на новите услови и ќе се пренесува и понатаму.
  • Soldier of Macedon
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 13670

    #2
    That is very interesting, thanks Serdarot, perhaps Matija was inspired by historians in his area in the centuries prior such Pribojevic and Orbini, who said similar thing in relation to the Macedonians of the ancient era and the Slavs.
    In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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    • Serdarot
      Member
      • Feb 2010
      • 605

      #3
      of course very interesting also the "iliri" part...

      and the options about the creation and the meaning of the term Sloven / Slavjan (Sloveni, Slavjani)

      i´ll try post more today evening, have to go to work now

      p.s.

      those who understand serbo-croatian can read the complete part 1, there are few other interesting moments, also talking about the languages, Christianity, etc
      Last edited by Serdarot; 04-04-2010, 07:39 AM.
      Bratot:
      Никој не е вечен, а каузава не е нова само е адаптирана на новите услови и ќе се пренесува и понатаму.

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      • Serdarot
        Member
        • Feb 2010
        • 605

        #4
        Ali ovo jošter valja znati,
        da ti biše od sviju njih mati:
        od českoga i od poljačkoga,
        od vandalskog i od horvatskoga,
        od moravskog i od moskovskoga,
        od slovačkog i od bosanskoga,
        dalmatinskog i srpskog jezika
        mati biše, - to je tebi dika.
        simply translation:

        "slavonski" "slovenski" language / dialect, (not slovenian, more like "slavic" dialect of Slavonia - the region in Croatia), was the mother of all the counted/mentioned languages.


        i will add that the Croatians are using "Dom / Doma" for "Home" , also have "Domovina" for the fatherland, and MANY similarities with the Macedonian Language.

        It is not important if the slavonian dialect was mother of all those languages, it is imporant that they are connected, and the connections with Aleksandar and the Macedonians.

        It is important the talking about how the land and the people were called Illyrians for some period...
        Bratot:
        Никој не е вечен, а каузава не е нова само е адаптирана на новите услови и ќе се пренесува и понатаму.

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