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Old 12-22-2010, 05:05 PM   #5311
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“Adolf Hitler was an instrument of world Zionism and was financed from the renowned Rothschild family with the sole purpose of convincing the Jews to leave the shores of Europe and go to Israel to establish the new Empire,” said Seraphim. He also charged that Jews such as "Rockefeller, Rothschild and Soros control the international banking system that controls globalization.”

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Actually what he said is partly the truth. I don't think Hitler was a tool of the Zionists but Zionism started to form in late 19th century with support from western powers and with sole purpose to transfer all the Jews in Europe to Palestine and revive Judea state of 2000 years ago. So, in that sense, formation of Israel is pretty similar to the formation of modern Greece. Both states has been revived after 2000 years of time.

At first, Zionists asked Ottoman government to sell Palestine to them for like 5 million ingot of gold but Ottoman Sultan refused their offer. Then few years laters British occupied Palestine in WW-1 and probably sold it to the Jews in exchange of same amount of gold. So, first ever European Jews reached to the Palestine with British ships soon after 1919, not with Hitler.

He is right about Jewish control in world banking system but it`s pretty stupid to hear these words from a priest where they should focus on religion, not world politics but since Greece is not a secular but kinda medieval theocratic state, so it`s quite ordinary for priests to involve politics in there.
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Old 12-22-2010, 05:38 PM   #5312
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He is right about Jewish control in world banking system but it`s pretty stupid to hear these words from a priest where they should focus on religion, not world politics but since Greece is not a secular but kinda medieval theocratic state, so it`s quite ordinary for priests to involve politics in there.
UMD has no business getting involved with statements not made directly towards Macedonians because it will never end. Germans next? French?
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Old 12-22-2010, 07:57 PM   #5314
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UMD has no business getting involved with statements not made directly towards Macedonians because it will never end. Germans next? French?
That's a valid point, I'd really like to see UMD put Macedonian interests as their ONLY priority.
As it is, I'm not really sure what or whom UMD supports...until UMD can articulate its message with a laser like focus its messages and agenda will be questioned.
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Old 12-22-2010, 08:08 PM   #5315
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That's a valid point, I'd really like to see UMD put Macedonian interests as their ONLY priority.
As it is, I'm not really sure what or whom UMD supports...until UMD can articulate its message with a laser like focus its messages and agenda will be questioned.
Just between you and I they're in way over their heads trying recklessly to resolve the problems of the world.

Not only is this wrong it's very dangerous.
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Now, you're going to dictate the rules here? Fair use means answering very simple questions. What do you think this is free parking?
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I do not think the UMD…although comprised of people…has the same rights nor obligations as people and should stick to its charter. Even Not having seen their charter their very name says this topic barely skims their world…at best an expression of solidarity with AJC as a pioneer worldwide in building interreligious understanding and concur with Rabbi Rosen said, “Jews worldwide had hoped that this kind of outrageous bigotry, which in the past was sustained and nurtured by the Christian world, had been consigned by the Church to the dustbin of history.”

In their initial post I do not see anything along these lines so it leads one to question…as previously stated the UMD as an organisation does not have the same rights nor obligations as a natural person…why has the UMD brought this matter to the MTO by which I mean had an individual don this I would find it less questionable. What intent does the UMD have by this act…I see you kurviski picki.
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Now, you're going to dictate the rules here? Fair use means answering very simple questions. What do you think this is free parking?
Just to add you…the UMD…have your own web site to express your views if indeed it is what you wanted to do because your post has no expression so even this is unclear. Assuming your intent was to make public your views on this issue as stated you have your own web site and the UMD announcements thread on the MTO as well as a host of media outlets at your disposal. This thread should not have been created by the UMD.
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Old 12-22-2010, 10:45 PM   #5320
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So, in that sense, formation of Israel is pretty similar to the formation of modern Greece. Both states has been revived after 2000 years of time.
That's so true. Both made the exact same crimes and both never get prosecuted for it.
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