United Macedonia Diaspora - Page 422

Soldier of Macedon · 07-17-2010, 03:16 PM

Bill, FYI (not taking anything away from the point you're making), but Ambrozic's works regarding the Dura are inaccurate.

Phoenix · 07-17-2010, 09:20 PM

I think its very counter productive to be 'selective' about our origins...I believe the richness of our Macedonian culture and identity itself is the result of the many influences that have swept through our corner of the world, since the first human steps were taken on our lands...

To surgically dissect the 'good' influences from the 'bad' is simply an act of historical revisionism on the level of absurdity made famous by the modern 'greek'.

The argument has to move away from this historical straight-jacket approach in an attempt to 'validate' our 'identity' and move back to where identity really belongs and that is in self consciousness and in the minds of men and the freedom in which to express it...

Soldier of Macedon · 07-17-2010, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Indigen

I don't know what your concept of "direct' entails but mine only requires indigenous genetic and cultural heritage, which without a doubt exists in present day Macedonians.......

Then the point of contention largely rests with different interpretations relating to the terminology used, otherwise, we all seem to be in agreement on the same facts.

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SOM, you are trying to be a peacemaker between two strong and uncompromising/incompatible Macedonia ideological currents and your attempt is doomed to failure from the outset. No fence-sitters allowed in this ideological war! :-)

I am far from being a 'fence-sitter' mate, as a matter of fact, I have been quite clinical when explaining my perceptions.

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We have indigenous cultural heritage and evolving indigenous cultural heritage (which would be the major part of it) inherited from our predecessors, Christian religious traditions being a significant part of it due to the fact that the first roots of Christianity in Europe are in Macedonia.

Part of the evolution includes the integration of foreign elements into Macedonian culture, if Christianity is also counted in the heritage that links us back to the ancients, then the same applies to most others in the Balkans, making them 'indigenous' also. Do you agree?

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Originally Posted by Popov

Therefore, in an ethnic sense, a Macedonian is a Macedonian-speaking person of Slavonic descent......

This is an inaccurate statement, as looking at it overall, the Slavonic 'connection' is linguistic and has little to do with 'descent'. Irrespective, although the statement could have been better written, I see no reason to doubt the commitment and good intentions of Popov or anybody from the AMHRC. I am sure we have all written things in the past that could have been better worded.

UMDiaspora.org · 07-26-2010, 07:24 PM

The United Macedonian Diaspora (UMD) announced today that its Board of Directors elected Stojan Nikolov as Chairman for the upcoming year. Nikolov takes over the role of Chairman from current UMD Vice President Aleksandar Mitreski who served as Chairman since July 2009. The Chairmanship is a one year position and the Chairman is selected by the Board from its members. Nikolov has been a member of the UMD Board for the last two years serving as Development Director of UMD Voice magazine. In addition, he oversees the development of new technologies to promote UMD, such as YouTube and Facebook, and he helps maintain the UMD website.

Read full press release: http://umdiaspora.org/content/view/489/1/

Soldier of Macedon · 07-27-2010, 12:55 AM

Every organisation can be operated how the operators see fit and appropriate, so long as it is transparent, then people can make their own minds up. I wanted to make this clear before my question, because irrespective of what the answer is I will not view the UMD any 'worse' or 'better', I only want to know for clarification. Does the UMD presidency also come under a vote, or not?

Vangelovski · 07-27-2010, 06:48 PM

Sounds a lot like Yugoslavia's post-Tito presidium - change the 'chairman' every now and then and it gives the impression that there is some sort of democratic process in place.

Risto the Great · 07-27-2010, 07:44 PM

Oh c'mon Vangelovski, it was nice to hear of them.
I thought it all got too hard for them once they decided they now favour no negotiations.
Perhaps it has been a period of consolidation before they unleash the militant version of the UMD.

Vangelovski · 07-30-2010, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Risto the Great

Oh c'mon Vangelovski, it was nice to hear of them.
I thought it all got too hard for them once they decided they now favour no negotiations.
Perhaps it has been a period of consolidation before they unleash the militant version of the UMD.

Do you think Chairman Nikolov will release a policy platform soon? I wonder if the Nikolov Doctrine will depart substantially from that of Chairman Democracy?

UMDiaspora.org · 08-02-2010, 12:23 PM

Ilinden Message from the United Macedonian Diaspora:

http://umdiaspora.org/content/view/490/1/

UMDiaspora.org · 08-04-2010, 06:11 PM

On June 4, 2010, the United Macedonian Diaspora organized a panel entitled "Tourism: The Undiscovered Macedonia" during the 2nd Annual UMD Global Conference in Toronto. Here are some of the videos. Stay tuned for videos of other panels.

Filip Blazeski - Part 1 - YouTube - Filip Blazeski Speaks at 2nd Annual United Macedonian Diaspora Global Conference - Part 1
Part 2 - YouTube - Filip Blazeski Speaks at 2nd Annual United Macedonian Diaspora Global Conference - Part 2

Dr. Douglas F. Munch - Part 1 - YouTube - Dr. Douglas F. Munch Speaks at 2nd Annual United Macedonian Diaspora Global Conference - Part 1
Part 2 - YouTube - Dr. Douglas F. Munch Speaks at 2nd Annual United Macedonian Diaspora Global Conference - Part 2
Part 3 - YouTube - Dr. Douglas F. Munch Speaks at 2nd Annual United Macedonian Diaspora Global Conference - Part 3

Karen Witt and Susan Riggio - YouTube - Karen Witt & Susan Riggio Speak at 2nd Annual United Macedonian Diaspora Global Conference

Vladimir Naumovski - YouTube - Vladimir Naumovski Speaks at 2nd Annual United Macedonian Diaspora Global Conference

Q&A - Part 1 - YouTube - Q&A Following Tourism: The Undiscovered Macedonia Panel - UMD GC2010 - Part 1
Part 2 - YouTube - Q&A Following Tourism: The Undiscovered Macedonia Panel - UMD GC2010 - Part 2
Part 3 - YouTube - Q&A Following Tourism: The Undiscovered Macedonia Panel - UMD GC2010 - Part 3

View Poll Results: Do you consider the UMD as your representative for the Macedonian Diaspora?
Yes	2	4.35%
No	44	95.65%
Voters: 46. You may not vote on this poll

07-17-2010, 03:16 PM	#4211
Soldier of Macedon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Macedonian Outpost Posts: 13,660	Bill, FYI (not taking anything away from the point you're making), but Ambrozic's works regarding the Dura are inaccurate. __________________ In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

07-26-2010, 07:24 PM	#4214
UMDiaspora.org Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: United States, Australia, Canada Posts: 525	The United Macedonian Diaspora (UMD) announced today that its Board of Directors elected Stojan Nikolov as Chairman for the upcoming year. Nikolov takes over the role of Chairman from current UMD Vice President Aleksandar Mitreski who served as Chairman since July 2009. The Chairmanship is a one year position and the Chairman is selected by the Board from its members. Nikolov has been a member of the UMD Board for the last two years serving as Development Director of UMD Voice magazine. In addition, he oversees the development of new technologies to promote UMD, such as YouTube and Facebook, and he helps maintain the UMD website. Read full press release: http://umdiaspora.org/content/view/489/1/ __________________ For comments, questions, concerns, please contact us at: United Macedonian Diaspora http://www.umdiaspora.org 1101 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW, 6th Floor, Washington, D.C. 20004, United States Phone: (202) 756-2244, Fax: (202) 756-7323, E-mail: [email protected] PO Box 2153, Hawthorn, Vic. 3122, Australia Phone: 0438 385 466, E-mail: [email protected] 3555 St. Clair Avenue East, Toronto, ON, M1K 1L6, Canada Phone: 416-209-0448, E-mail: [email protected]

07-27-2010, 12:55 AM	#4215
Soldier of Macedon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Macedonian Outpost Posts: 13,660	Every organisation can be operated how the operators see fit and appropriate, so long as it is transparent, then people can make their own minds up. I wanted to make this clear before my question, because irrespective of what the answer is I will not view the UMD any 'worse' or 'better', I only want to know for clarification. Does the UMD presidency also come under a vote, or not? __________________ In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

07-27-2010, 06:48 PM	#4216
Vangelovski Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 8,519	Sounds a lot like Yugoslavia's post-Tito presidium - change the 'chairman' every now and then and it gives the impression that there is some sort of democratic process in place. __________________ If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14 The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John Adams

07-17-2010, 09:20 PM	#4212
Phoenix Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 4,668	I think its very counter productive to be 'selective' about our origins...I believe the richness of our Macedonian culture and identity itself is the result of the many influences that have swept through our corner of the world, since the first human steps were taken on our lands... To surgically dissect the 'good' influences from the 'bad' is simply an act of historical revisionism on the level of absurdity made famous by the modern 'greek'. The argument has to move away from this historical straight-jacket approach in an attempt to 'validate' our 'identity' and move back to where identity really belongs and that is in self consciousness and in the minds of men and the freedom in which to express it...

07-27-2010, 07:44 PM	#4217
Risto the Great Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Macedonian Colony of Australia Posts: 15,639	Oh c'mon Vangelovski, it was nice to hear of them. I thought it all got too hard for them once they decided they now favour no negotiations. Perhaps it has been a period of consolidation before they unleash the militant version of the UMD. __________________ Risto the Great MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA "Holding my breath for the revolution." Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

08-02-2010, 12:23 PM	#4219
UMDiaspora.org Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: United States, Australia, Canada Posts: 525	Ilinden Message from the United Macedonian Diaspora: http://umdiaspora.org/content/view/490/1/ __________________ For comments, questions, concerns, please contact us at: United Macedonian Diaspora http://www.umdiaspora.org 1101 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW, 6th Floor, Washington, D.C. 20004, United States Phone: (202) 756-2244, Fax: (202) 756-7323, E-mail: [email protected] PO Box 2153, Hawthorn, Vic. 3122, Australia Phone: 0438 385 466, E-mail: [email protected] 3555 St. Clair Avenue East, Toronto, ON, M1K 1L6, Canada Phone: 416-209-0448, E-mail: [email protected]

08-04-2010, 06:11 PM	#4220
UMDiaspora.org Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: United States, Australia, Canada Posts: 525	On June 4, 2010, the United Macedonian Diaspora organized a panel entitled "Tourism: The Undiscovered Macedonia" during the 2nd Annual UMD Global Conference in Toronto. Here are some of the videos. Stay tuned for videos of other panels. Filip Blazeski - Part 1 - YouTube - Filip Blazeski Speaks at 2nd Annual United Macedonian Diaspora Global Conference - Part 1 Part 2 - YouTube - Filip Blazeski Speaks at 2nd Annual United Macedonian Diaspora Global Conference - Part 2 Dr. Douglas F. Munch - Part 1 - YouTube - Dr. Douglas F. Munch Speaks at 2nd Annual United Macedonian Diaspora Global Conference - Part 1 Part 2 - YouTube - Dr. Douglas F. Munch Speaks at 2nd Annual United Macedonian Diaspora Global Conference - Part 2 Part 3 - YouTube - Dr. Douglas F. Munch Speaks at 2nd Annual United Macedonian Diaspora Global Conference - Part 3 Karen Witt and Susan Riggio - YouTube - Karen Witt & Susan Riggio Speak at 2nd Annual United Macedonian Diaspora Global Conference Vladimir Naumovski - YouTube - Vladimir Naumovski Speaks at 2nd Annual United Macedonian Diaspora Global Conference Q&A - Part 1 - YouTube - Q&A Following Tourism: The Undiscovered Macedonia Panel - UMD GC2010 - Part 1 Part 2 - YouTube - Q&A Following Tourism: The Undiscovered Macedonia Panel - UMD GC2010 - Part 2 Part 3 - YouTube - Q&A Following Tourism: The Undiscovered Macedonia Panel - UMD GC2010 - Part 3 __________________ For comments, questions, concerns, please contact us at: United Macedonian Diaspora http://www.umdiaspora.org 1101 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW, 6th Floor, Washington, D.C. 20004, United States Phone: (202) 756-2244, Fax: (202) 756-7323, E-mail: [email protected] PO Box 2153, Hawthorn, Vic. 3122, Australia Phone: 0438 385 466, E-mail: [email protected] 3555 St. Clair Avenue East, Toronto, ON, M1K 1L6, Canada Phone: 416-209-0448, E-mail: [email protected]

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