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  • Risto the Great
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 15658

    #31
    When the Nazi's are looking good, you know the country is fucked.
    Risto the Great
    MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
    "Holding my breath for the revolution."

    Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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    • Voltron
      Banned
      • Jan 2011
      • 1362

      #32
      Well the thing is this is happening all over Europe. Going back to France and Netherlands you see the same support growing for far-right groups. People are fed up with this shit.

      I mean look at this ---> http://articles.cnn.com/2012-04-24/w...s?_s=PM:EUROPE

      WTF already? What about Christians in the Middle East, why is it we have to cater to these people. We dont want them here, period. I swear these bleeding hearts in organisations like Amensty Internatinal have their heads up there pretentious asses.

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      • George S.
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 10116

        #33
        //"Rather than countering these prejudices, political parties and public officials are all too often pandering to them in their quest for votes."In macedoni's sake voltron it's really pandering to them & not really countering anything.
        "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
        GOTSE DELCEV

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        • makedonche
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2008
          • 3242

          #34
          [QUOTE=Voltron;126200]
          Originally posted by Brian View Post

          There are plenty, If I had the money and power I know I wouldnt abuse it at the expense of my country. Id give the shirt off my back if I could.

          Actions speak louder than words. You may think they have ulterior motives, but I cant help but feel that they really do care about the country.



          PASTA AT THE DOORSTEP

          In working class neighbourhoods of Athens, Golden Dawn has been quietly building itself up as a friendly, reliable face among hard-hit Greeks that the state has failed to help.

          For over a year, party members have given needy families bags of rice and pasta, olive oil and clothes in cartons labelled: "I vote for Golden Dawn to clean up the place" and "For Athens to become Greek again".

          Former Socialist voter Katerina Karousi, a 76-year old cancer patient, broke down in sobs when party members showed up at her doorstep with large bags of food on Friday morning.

          "I hear they are doing nice things for people. Why not vote for them?" said her husband, 79-year old Andreas Karoussis.

          On their way out, a Golden Dawn member bade the couple farewell with: "Call us if you need anything - I mean anything."

          At another stop, 41-year-old Constantina Tassiou looked bewildered and overwhelmed as Golden Dawn members piled clothes and supermarket bags at her doorstep.

          "It's the first time someone has brought us clothes and food. Only the church has helped us so far," said Tassiou, an epilepsy sufferer whose family lives on her welfare benefits. "I'll vote for Golden Dawn, maybe it's time for something new."

          Elsewhere, Golden Dawn escorts the elderly who are wary of immigrants to bank ATMs, said spokesman Elias Panagiotaros.

          The group has little sympathy for the political class. Politicians behind Greece's crisis must be hauled before a special court, jailed and their property seized, the group says, while any Greek refusing to join the conscript army will be stripped of their citizenship and exiled.

          ^ The highlighted part in bold is what means the most to me. They are the only party openly stating this. I will vote for any party that can make that happen. These bastards must serve time and their possession taken away from them and their families. That and immigration of course.
          Voltron
          So if Golden Dawn are prepared to hand out food and clothes to the needy their sins should be forgiven?
          i agree with the part about the politicians, but there is a right way and a wrong way of doing things - to vote Golden Dawn in on only one aspect of what they stand for is extremely dangerous, you need to look at the whole picture and where they stand on all issues that it takes to run a country!
          On Delchev's sarcophagus you can read the following inscription: "We swear the future generations to bury these sacred bones in the capital of Independent Macedonia. August 1923 Illinden"

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          • Risto the Great
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2008
            • 15658

            #35
            Originally posted by Voltron View Post
            WTF already? What about Christians in the Middle East, why is it we have to cater to these people. We dont want them here, period. I swear these bleeding hearts in organisations like Amensty Internatinal have their heads up there pretentious asses.
            What about Christian Macedonians in Greece? Should you cater for them?
            I can give you 100 odd years of examples sunshine.
            Risto the Great
            MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
            "Holding my breath for the revolution."

            Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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            • Voltron
              Banned
              • Jan 2011
              • 1362

              #36
              Makendonche, they are the only parties in Europe that take the stand against illegal immigrants and the corrosion of our culture's across Europe. I do not want to see an Australia or US model applied to Europe. Find me a party that feels the same.

              Risto, thats a different story altogether and I agree there is always room for improvement.

              Is the far right gaining ground in Europe?

              The success of France’s National Front party thrust the far right into the headlines. Is the movement gathering support across Europe?


              "Two very different scenarios, but with a common thread: the efforts of extremist parties to win support by plugging into popular discontent over the financial crisis, against the backdrop of a wider social unease and anti-immigrant sentiment.

              Across Europe, anger at a perceived mismanagement of the economic crisis, and accompanying high unemployment, low growth and painful cuts, has seen the fall of half a dozen governments.

              Ireland, Portugal, Spain, Greece, Finland and Italy are among them -- "

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              • Brian
                Banned
                • Oct 2011
                • 1130

                #37
                Originally posted by Voltron View Post
                Actions speak louder than words. You may think they have ulterior motives, but I cant help but feel that they really do care about the country.



                PASTA AT THE DOORSTEP

                In working class neighbourhoods of Athens, Golden Dawn has been quietly building itself up as a friendly, reliable face among hard-hit Greeks that the state has failed to help.

                For over a year, party members have given needy families bags of rice and pasta, olive oil and clothes in cartons labelled: "I vote for Golden Dawn to clean up the place" and "For Athens to become Greek again".



                "I hear they are doing nice things for people. Why not vote for them?" said her husband, 79-year old Andreas Karoussis.

                On their way out, a Golden Dawn member bade the couple farewell with: "Call us if you need anything - I mean anything."



                "It's the first time someone has brought us clothes and food. Only the church has helped us so far," said Tassiou, an epilepsy sufferer whose family lives on her welfare benefits. "I'll vote for Golden Dawn, maybe it's time for something new."

                Elsewhere, Golden Dawn escorts the elderly who are wary of immigrants
                to bank ATMs, said spokesman Elias Panagiotaros.

                The group has little sympathy for the political class. Politicians behind Greece's crisis must be hauled before a special court, jailed and their property seized, the group says, while any Greek refusing to join the conscript army will be stripped of their citizenship and exiled.

                ^ The highlighted part in bold is what means the most to me. They are the only party openly stating this. I will vote for any party that can make that happen. These bastards must serve time and their possession taken away from them and their families. That and immigration of course.
                The SDSM Party in RoM gave people packets of sweets and packets of coffee and jobs where local areas where SDSM politicians are in charge - it still doesn't mean they're not scumbags. The Golden Dawn seem to be a smarter version of scumbags with their boxes of goodies labelled "I vote for Golden Dawn to clean up the place" and "For Athens to become Greek again" - CLEARLY buying votes. It's a great PR exercises, but still just a PR exercise ie what are their policies ie what else are they going to do?

                Has it dawned on anyone where is the party getting the money to fund these charitable acts??? -remember Greece is F'ed and MOST people are in need so the few who have could not keep pace with the millions in need, so where's the money coming from??? You say I anyone might be thinking there is as ulterior agenda/motives and I for one do. I could speculate but I won't just know, I want you to first think about where the money could be coming from and why. The Golden Dawn are a political party with their own finances but I don't know of any political party that could finance large scale (read HUGE) charity acts on their own, so who's the 'suggar daddy' and why via the Golden Dawn?
                Last edited by Brian; 04-28-2012, 03:53 PM.

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                • makedonche
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 3242

                  #38
                  Voltron

                  Makendonche, they are the only parties in Europe that take the stand against illegal immigrants and the corrosion of our culture's across Europe. I do not want to see an Australia or US model applied to Europe. Find me a party that feels the same.
                  I understand and agree it needs adressing, however that is merely one aspect of the running of a country, there is a lot more to it and until you see policy statements or plans on how the country will be run then I wouldn't be too keen to jump on board and vote with your heart!
                  On Delchev's sarcophagus you can read the following inscription: "We swear the future generations to bury these sacred bones in the capital of Independent Macedonia. August 1923 Illinden"

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                  • Voltron
                    Banned
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 1362

                    #39
                    We need people that are not tainted by politics. Every other party here in Greece are the same has beens since the Junta's falling in 74. Its demoralizing to say the least. Same faces, different slogan. The system is rotten to the core and intertwined with the media. We need a clean slate, they may not be the ideal option but they are completely new to the political scene and without contamination from politics. That may be just what we need now.

                    I feel Europe in general needs a healthy dose of national pride, and we need anti-multiculturalists on the scene to make that happen. Going back to the French elections if Hollande wins I can only pray he will feed on that vibe and ensure he takes a strong anti-immigration stance. There are other places on this planet that are proud of their melting pot traditions. Europe should not be one of them.

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                    • Phoenix
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 4671

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Voltron View Post
                      We need people that are not tainted by politics. Every other party here in Greece are the same has beens since the Junta's falling in 74. Its demoralizing to say the least. Same faces, different slogan. The system is rotten to the core and intertwined with the media. We need a clean slate, they may not be the ideal option but they are completely new to the political scene and without contamination from politics. That may be just what we need now.

                      I feel Europe in general needs a healthy dose of national pride, and we need anti-multiculturalists on the scene to make that happen. Going back to the French elections if Hollande wins I can only pray he will feed on that vibe and ensure he takes a strong anti-immigration stance. There are other places on this planet that are proud of their melting pot traditions. Europe should not be one of them.
                      Voltron, stay in greece buddy.
                      If it's intolerance that you're after, you're in the right place...knock yourself out.

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                      • Brian
                        Banned
                        • Oct 2011
                        • 1130

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Voltron View Post
                        I feel Europe in general needs a healthy dose of national pride, and we need anti-multiculturalists on the scene to make that happen. Going back to the French elections if Hollande wins I can only pray he will feed on that vibe and ensure he takes a strong anti-immigration stance. There are other places on this planet that are proud of their melting pot traditions. Europe should not be one of them.
                        Originally posted by Voltron View Post
                        I feel Europe in general needs a healthy dose of national pride, and we need anti-multiculturalists on the scene to make that happen. Going back to the French elections if Hollande wins I can only pray he will feed on that vibe and ensure he takes a strong anti-immigration stance. There are other places on this planet that are proud of their melting pot traditions. Europe should not be one of them.
                        Fully agree Voltron. If it wasn't for the anti-Macedonian actions of the Golden Dawn I'd be supporting you fully.

                        In light of the last few posts I thought it was timely to remind people of the clip Bill77 found
                        (re"Brian's Corner" Bill77 Post271

                        "The Anthem - ANTI RACIST IS A CODEWORD FOR ANTI WHITE - Johnnywhiterabbit - YouTube" )

                        I would have reposted it here but YouTube have banned it. Goes to show that the globalists want to control what you think by what you can see and hear. YouTube is owned by Google and we already have evidence that Google is working with the CIA.

                        There is nothing wrong with the video, it neither promotes violence nor glorifies it. In fact it sounds like a yuppy club song (it's modelled on Brian McFadden's "Just Say It So") and yet it's banned. Clearly it's only message is as the title says anti-racist is a codeword for anti-white ie why are whites in the EU, UK, USA, Canada, Australia and NZ told anytime they want to defend their culture they are being racist yet EVERY African, Middle East, Asian and Latin American country is allowed to promote and protect their culture and even restrict immigration to them and restrict cultural/religiose expression of their guest workers and visitors - do you get it?, everyone can protect their culture except whites or we're labeled racist.

                        The UN/globalists/elinet/NWO agenda to brainwash people has worked so well that blind idiots, even on the MTO, will savage anyone who dares speak the truth about so called racism. One concelation is that they haven't started censoring people yet, unlike YouTube which activly does. This was fortold in many publications and Highlighted in "Brian's Corner". Now that censorship of the internet HAS (not will) HAPPENED maybe you will start to listen before it's too late.

                        I've been told my posts are somewhat invisible to some people that's why I have resorted to 'smilies' to get peoples attention to both the censorship and brainwashing/anti-racism issues.
                        Last edited by Brian; 04-30-2012, 08:51 AM.

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                        • makedonche
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 3242

                          #42
                          Voltron

                          We need people that are not tainted by politics. Every other party here in Greece are the same has beens since the Junta's falling in 74. Its demoralizing to say the least. Same faces, different slogan. The system is rotten to the core and intertwined with the media. We need a clean slate, they may not be the ideal option but they are completely new to the political scene and without contamination from politics. That may be just what we need now.
                          Good luck trying to find anybody not tainted by politics! A clean slate is a great idea, so what do you do kill everyone involved in politics now or the last ten years or since 1974 in order to cleanse the system and start fresh? How about making the best of what you have and keeping them accountable instead?
                          On Delchev's sarcophagus you can read the following inscription: "We swear the future generations to bury these sacred bones in the capital of Independent Macedonia. August 1923 Illinden"

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                          • DraganOfStip
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2011
                            • 1253

                            #43
                            Politics and elections in France

                            National Front, a far-right party led by Marine Le Pen was victorious in the local elections in France that took place this weekend.
                            The party won around 30% of all votes,leaving prime minister Nicolas Sarkozy's Republican party in second with around 27% and president Francois Olland's Socialist party third with around 23%.
                            This came as a very big surprise because polls prior to the Paris terror attacks didn't indicate such a scenario.However,after the tragedy when it was disclosed that some of the terrorists came to France with the migrant flow from Syria,nationalistic and anti-immigrant feelings grew and Le Pen got wind in her back and took an unexpected victory.
                            One of the founders (and it's president until 2011) of the National Front was Marine's father, Jean-Marie Le Pen.
                            Other founders included Nazi collaborators and former Vichy France office-bearers, and the party's stance was full rehabilitation of collaborators during the German occupation in WWII.

                            This is the last example of a rise of far-right ideology in an European country.Hungary's ruling party Jobbik is known for it's anti-semitism and support for rehabilitation of fascist Miklos Horty (who allied Hungary with the Axis during WWII) calling him "the greatest Hungarian statesman of the 20th century".
                            And let's not forget Greece's Golden Dawn clowns who openly use the Nazi salute and have an edited version of the swastika on their party flag.Their ratings skyrocketed in the wake of Greek bankruptcy and were considered responsible for instigating physical attacks on foreigners.
                            The economic impact on the countries that accept migrants combined with growing number of foreigners (mainly muslims) ,fear of another financial crisis as a result and fear of terrorism is feeding far-right parties throughout Europe.
                            Looking back at the conditions in the post-WWI Weimar Republic during 1920's and early 1930's, this can't be a good thing.

                            Last edited by DraganOfStip; 12-07-2015, 07:16 AM.
                            ”A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims... but accomplices”
                            ― George Orwell

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                            • DraganOfStip
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2011
                              • 1253

                              #44
                              Speaking of collaborator rehabilitation.
                              After a shameful act of rehabilitating chetnik leader Draza Mihailovic,another disgraceful process is set to begin today - the Belgrade court will discuss the rehabilitation of the Serbian head of (puppet) state during WWII Milan Nedic.
                              This is insane...

                              ”A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims... but accomplices”
                              ― George Orwell

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                              • Philosopher
                                Senior Member
                                • Sep 2008
                                • 1003

                                #45
                                Originally posted by DraganOfStip View Post
                                National Front, a far-right party led by Marine Le Pen was victorious in the local elections in France that took place this weekend.
                                The party won around 30% of all votes,leaving prime minister Nicolas Sarkozy's Republican party in second with around 27% and president Francois Olland's Socialist party third with around 23%.
                                This came as a very big surprise because polls prior to the Paris terror attacks didn't indicate such a scenario.However,after the tragedy when it was disclosed that some of the terrorists came to France with the migrant flow from Syria,nationalistic and anti-immigrant feelings grew and Le Pen got wind in her back and took an unexpected victory.
                                One of the founders (and it's president until 2011) of the National Front was Marine's father, Jean-Marie Le Pen.
                                Other founders included Nazi collaborators and former Vichy France office-bearers, and the party's stance was full rehabilitation of collaborators during the German occupation in WWII.

                                This is the last example of a rise of far-right ideology in an European country.Hungary's ruling party Jobbik is known for it's anti-semitism and support for rehabilitation of fascist Miklos Horty (who allied Hungary with the Axis during WWII) calling him "the greatest Hungarian statesman of the 20th century".
                                And let's not forget Greece's Golden Dawn clowns who openly use the Nazi salute and have an edited version of the swastika on their party flag.Their ratings skyrocketed in the wake of Greek bankruptcy and were considered responsible for instigating physical attacks on foreigners.
                                The economic impact on the countries that accept migrants combined with growing number of foreigners (mainly muslims) ,fear of another financial crisis as a result and fear of terrorism is feeding far-right parties throughout Europe.
                                Looking back at the conditions in the post-WWI Weimar Republic during 1920's and early 1930's, this can't be a good thing.

                                http://kapital.mk/analitichari-sega-...-so-frantsija/
                                Fascism is a left-wing ideology, as is Nazism. Hitler's regime was left-wing, as was Italy's fascist regime. There is nothing "right-wing" in national socialism or government control of anything, including the media and corporations.

                                The problem lies in the definition of terms. A classical liberal is not a modern day liberal. And a classical conservative is not a modern day conservative. There is serious confusion on this.

                                In addition, it never ceases to amaze me how the god of the West, democracy, is continually exalted until a people vote in a manner that certain Western intellectuals do not like. The French public have spoken; it is their decision.

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