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  • Makedonska_Kafana
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2010
    • 2642

    Now, let move to us .. World Macedonian Diaspora

    We, unlike the UMD do NOT support ANY Macedonian party directly or indirectly today because of severe violations and the lack of understanding they have via UMD .. we DEMAND that they change their anti Macedonianisms.
    Last edited by Makedonska_Kafana; 05-23-2011, 11:29 PM.
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    Macedonia for the Macedonians

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    • Vangelovski
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2008
      • 8531

      Originally posted by Makedonska_Kafana View Post
      I, know that and so does he; however, he will always support someone so I think it's a case of the "lessor of all evils"?
      In my view, there is no such thing as a 'lesser of two evils'. They either support the Macedonian cause or they do not. There is no such thing as a sort of or somewhat support. Gruevski does not support the cause.
      If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14

      The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John Adams

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      • Makedonska_Kafana
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2010
        • 2642

        Originally posted by Vangelovski View Post
        In my view, there is no such thing as a 'lesser of two evils'. They either support the Macedonian cause or they do not. There is no such thing as a sort of or somewhat support. Gruevski does not support the cause.
        Okay, then he has not changed in our eyes if he supports anyone that's not part of the Macedonian cause ..

        Last edited by Makedonska_Kafana; 05-24-2011, 12:10 AM.
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        Macedonia for the Macedonians

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        • Soldier of Macedon
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2008
          • 13670

          Droog, take Tom's advice and obtain a better grasp of english.
          In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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          • rujnovino
            Member
            • Jan 2011
            • 114

            Originally posted by Makedonska_Kafana View Post
            Okay, then he has not changed in our eyes if he supports anyone that's not part of the Macedonian cause ..

            http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum...nt.php?f=2&a=3


            Hahah - "our eyes"
            MakKafana, does Vangelovski do your seeing and your thinking for you? um.. .wait a sec, what do we think? Oh, ok, that's what we think.


            Questions for V. :

            1. Do you recommend that Macedonia leave the United Nations? After all, it is only there as FYROM, a "Gligorovist" plot for Macedonia's destruction, to be sure...

            2. After 2001, how much confidence do you have in the ARM defending the country's borders? Is that confidence improved, when Macedonia is outside of NATO and the UN, or is it diminished?

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            • UMDiaspora.org
              Member
              • Oct 2009
              • 525

              Let's not bicker, let's celebrate in unity 20 years of Macedonian Independence.

              See posters by renowned California-based artist Blagojce Stojanovski....Register to attend the UMD Global Conference on June 23-25, 2011 in Washington, D.C. http://www.UMDGlobalConference.org.


              For comments, questions, concerns, please contact us at:

              United Macedonian Diaspora
              http://www.umdiaspora.org

              1101 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW, 6th Floor, Washington, D.C. 20004, United States
              Phone: (202) 756-2244, Fax: (202) 756-7323, E-mail: [email protected]

              PO Box 2153, Hawthorn, Vic. 3122, Australia
              Phone: 0438 385 466, E-mail: [email protected]

              3555 St. Clair Avenue East, Toronto, ON, M1K 1L6, Canada
              Phone: 416-209-0448, E-mail: [email protected]

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              • Vangelovski
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2008
                • 8531

                Originally posted by rujnovino View Post
                Hahah - "our eyes"
                MakKafana, does Vangelovski do your seeing and your thinking for you? um.. .wait a sec, what do we think? Oh, ok, that's what we think.


                Questions for V. :

                1. Do you recommend that Macedonia leave the United Nations? After all, it is only there as FYROM, a "Gligorovist" plot for Macedonia's destruction, to be sure...

                2. After 2001, how much confidence do you have in the ARM defending the country's borders? Is that confidence improved, when Macedonia is outside of NATO and the UN, or is it diminished?
                RV,

                You would do well to first address your glaring hypocracy and contradictions over Interim Accord and the Framework Agreement before asking me questions that I have discussed in detail over the past few years. Perhaps a quick search on this forum or google will save me the time from repeating myself.
                If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14

                The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John Adams

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                • Vangelovski
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 8531

                  Meto,

                  Its good to see that you have finally used a symbol that was freely chosen by the Macedonian people. Lets hope that this is not just another temporary PR measure like the rest of your weak attempts at gaining credibility.
                  If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14

                  The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John Adams

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                  • Risto the Great
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 15658

                    No no, we have 8 rays as well (just in case).
                    Risto the Great
                    MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
                    "Holding my breath for the revolution."

                    Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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                    • El Bre
                      Member
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 713

                      Kafana,

                      Am I crazy, or do I remember Bitove debating some guy from the "Pan Macs" on TV in the late 80's / early 90's?

                      I vaguely remember the event, and I'm not sure it was even him.

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                      • Makedonska_Kafana
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2010
                        • 2642

                        Originally posted by El Bre View Post
                        Kafana,

                        Am I crazy, or do I remember Bitove debating some guy from the "Pan Macs" on TV in the late 80's / early 90's?

                        I vaguely remember the event, and I'm not sure it was even him.
                        I think that was the president of the MPO? It, was a long time ago and i can't recall who it was just now. Are you thinking about the MPO? If, yes it was Ivan the Terrible. Oh, wait I just thought it might be a short, bald man with glasses - yes, that was some G'rkoman (moron) maybe Bill Fatzis?
                        Last edited by Makedonska_Kafana; 05-24-2011, 07:40 PM.
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                        Macedonia for the Macedonians

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                        • Makedonska_Kafana
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2010
                          • 2642

                          Originally posted by rujnovino View Post
                          Hahah - "our eyes"


                          Add United Macedonians of Canada

                          Bato, please don't try to say UMD is the Macedonian "voice" of diaspora when clearly that's not the case, badly outnumbered.
                          Last edited by Makedonska_Kafana; 05-24-2011, 07:00 PM.
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                          Macedonia for the Macedonians

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                          • Makedonska_Kafana
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2010
                            • 2642

                            Originally posted by Vangelovski View Post
                            Meto,

                            Its good to see that you have finally used a symbol that was freely chosen by the Macedonian people. Lets hope that this is not just another temporary PR measure like the rest of your weak attempts at gaining credibility.
                            Hey, I think it's a small start and I for one like the poster. This, clearly is a sign the Macedonian flag will be proudly used for the 1st time in June for the world to see. It's, the ONLY way to keep George interested - good call
                            Last edited by Makedonska_Kafana; 05-24-2011, 07:18 PM.
                            http://www.makedonskakafana.com

                            Macedonia for the Macedonians

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                            • julie
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2009
                              • 3869

                              why the flag of capitulation adorning the small child on the left though?
                              "The moral revolution - the revolution of the mind, heart and soul of an enslaved people, is our greatest task."__________________Gotse Delchev

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                              • Makedonska_Kafana
                                Senior Member
                                • Aug 2010
                                • 2642

                                Originally posted by rujnovino View Post

                                Questions for V. :

                                1. Do you recommend that Macedonia leave the United Nations? After all, it is only there as FYROM, a "Gligorovist" plot for Macedonia's destruction, to be sure...

                                2. After 2001, how much confidence do you have in the ARM defending the country's borders? Is that confidence improved, when Macedonia is outside of NATO and the UN, or is it diminished?
                                you, can't pick and choose what you want here zaspan - open to all. Questions for Meto only? FU
                                Last edited by Makedonska_Kafana; 05-24-2011, 07:24 PM.
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                                Macedonia for the Macedonians

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