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Interesting article with regard to the current political situation in Sanjak. Also some facts about Ramush Haradinaj I wasn't aware of.
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Interesting article with regard to the current political situation in Sanjak. Also some facts about Ramush Haradinaj I wasn't aware of. -
Would have been interesting if the al qaeda operatives helping haradinaj liberate kosovo had have known he'd never stepped foot in a mosque and fully recognised his christian past -
Very interesting and eye opening article. Love them or hate them, the Albanians have one of the strongest national and ethnic consciousness in the world. I'm actually jealous of them in that context.
Originally posted by Solun View Post
The part about Haradinaj was the most interesting of all. He also basically said that Albanians, use whatever means are available of them to further their agenda. If that meant being Muslims during the Ottoman period, then so be it.
Originally posted by Solun View PostComment
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He can't speak on behalf of all Albanians. Many of those who weren't opportunistic and maintained their integrity did not become turncoats. I've met a number of Catholic Albanians who are quite proud of the fact that they "didn't let the Turks take them", as they say.Originally posted by Gocka View PostIn the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.Comment
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That's true, although I don't know how big of a group Catholics really are. They live almost exclusively in Albania, and even there they only make up about 7% of the population, I think there are more Orthodox adherents in Albania than Catholics.
If he doesn't speak for all, he certainly speaks for the vast majority, no?
Originally posted by Soldier of Macedon View PostComment
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Albanian Catholics form about 10,7% of the population while the Orthodoxy forms 6% which has fallen from 20%. Muslims make about 60% which has fallen from 70%.Comment
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Why have the Muslim numbers fallen and over what time?
Same for Orthodox.Risto the Great
MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
"Holding my breath for the revolution."
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How come the overall drop does increase somewhere else?
Originally posted by Risto the Great View PostComment
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Perhaps mafia is the new religion.Originally posted by Gocka View PostRisto the Great
MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
"Holding my breath for the revolution."
Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.comComment
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Remember that any Orthodox in Albania is considered Greek by Athens, hence they are the type of Albanian they would prefer to attract.Comment
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lol
What is it with Albanians and math!
If Muslims drop 10%, and Orthodox drop 14% that means 24% of the population has either become atheist, or has taken another religion.
10.4+60+6=76.4, so what is the other 24%?
Originally posted by Risto the Great View PostComment
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Orthodox Albanians started calling themselves Greek (Rum) after XVI century that is when they were starting to use Greek names too.Originally posted by Solun View Post
Amphipolis since you showed the censuses about the religion in Albania. I am wanted to ask you for the Albanian migrants in Greece (90s and forward) are majority of those Muslim or Orthodox?Comment
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The 2011 census numbers still only add up to 97.5%
Also there is a huge amount who are "undeclared" which is different form atheist. There is also "non affiliated believers", also different from the other two. If you add all 3 of those groups up that gets you about 22% add the 2.5% that is missing from the total and there you are again at about the 24% I asked about earlier.
A good portion of that 24% has to be Orthodox, Macedonians in the east and Greeks in the south. The simple fact that there was a big "drop" in Orthodox Christians, and that's made up by "non affiliated" and "undeclared" is very suspicious.
It's either that, or Albania is about 1/4 atheist, which is doubtful.
Originally posted by Amphipolis View PostComment
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As I am the local (forum) nut job that deals with all things regarding ethnic-linguistic claims and descent, the following statement - which I have to point out - raised a smile:
Единственото нешто што ме поврзува со муслиманите е моето име, но и тоа не е комплетно исламско, бидејќи нашите (албански) имиња се секуларни и потекнуваат од католиците Албанци и од Илирите - рекол Харадинај.
I'd like to leave it at that, and point out some "interesting" facts regarding M. Zukorlic, and some of his claims.
Ethnic Minorities and Politics in Post-Socialist Southeastern Europe
edited by Sabrina P. Ramet, Marko Valenta
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On page 182 we read.
A couple of days later, the cleric upped the ante by claiming that the Bosniak nation stemmed from the Illyrian tribes, which in the Middle Ages espoused the Bogumil Christian tradition and adopted Islam with the advent of the Ottoman Empire in the Balkans. On another occasion the cleric explained that the Bosniaks were neither Turks nor Slavs but rather Illyrians due to the fact that:
This is a nation which has lived here for 3000-4000 years and had its realms, had its capital ... that fortress next to Novi Pazar ... you've heard about the Ras fortress; however that Ras fortress is not Ras but rather Arsa, an Illyrian capital with very clear historic evidences. Are you aware of the most obvious evidence that this is not the Serb cradle Ras? The fact that entrance there is forbidden. The biggest fortress in this region, closed for tourists. Why?Comment
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