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  • United MKD
    Member
    • Jul 2011
    • 547

    #16
    But farout they are just kids I mean they do not look a day older 18 honestly wtf how could some cold blooded killer do this? Some pictures have been circulating on facebook of them. Such a tragedy, this country has gone to the shitter. RIP

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    • EgejskaMakedonia
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2010
      • 1665

      #17


      Apparently these are the young victims. As uMKD said, a lot of Macedonian facebook groups are posting in relation to this tragedy. Hopefully the perpetrators are brought to justice and their motives are uncovered as soon as possible.

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      • EgejskaMakedonia
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2010
        • 1665

        #18
        This facebook group dedicated to the victims has already gained over 5,000 members in an hour or so. There are talks of a protest being organised following Easter.

        Log into Facebook to start sharing and connecting with your friends, family, and people you know.


        One thing is for certain, Macedonians need to reclaim their nation from this incompetent government. The country is on a downhill, and it's an absolute shame that things like this are required for the people to wake up. I'd seriously question whether the government and police would do everything they can to find those responsible.

        Hypothetically speaking if Albanians were involved, would this be swept under the carpet? Surely it wouldn't be in the interests of Gruevski and co. to release such information to the public, similar to the amnesty 'awarded' to Albanian terrorists. If fellow Macedonians were responsible, then chances are they will be brought to justice without a second thought. So they should, but it's amazing how basing the outcome on the aggressor's ethnic background can, and may have a significant influence.

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        • Bill77
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2009
          • 4545

          #19
          I have no doubts Shiptars are behind this murder.

          What's going to happen now?......i will tell you.

          -MINA is going to blame Crvenkovski for setting this up to destabilise the country.

          -Macedonian citizens will do jack shit and go on with their normal pathetic EU aspired lives. (we are not like the shiptari seek revenge and try to spread fear amongst these no good low life race Shiptari).

          -EU/US would send a message and encourage the government to find a suitable name for Greece, in order to enter their clubs ASAP for the sake of the nations security. There will be no criticism coming from their mouths directed at the Shiptars. Possibly a warning towards the Macedonians not to escalate the matter and to show restraint (bend over, take it and love it. or else).

          -We here on MTO will show outrage. Then somehow turn on each other

          I used to think "nie makedoncite sne za grevota" but now its beyond sympathy. We deserve everything we get. We (Macedonians) are a disgrace.
          http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?p=120873#post120873

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          • Zarni
            Banned
            • May 2011
            • 672

            #20
            I'm not sure that such a strategy would be beneficial to the shiptar cause, attacking and killing 'innocent civillians' is hardly grounds for another shiptar uprising
            Why fucking not it achieves their goal of fear

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            • Phoenix
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2008
              • 4671

              #21
              Originally posted by Zarni View Post
              Why fucking not it achieves their goal of fear
              Time will tell if it was an isolated incident (as most murders are) or a grander plan (as some of you think)...

              If it were part of a wider conspiracy I think its fraught with danger for the shiptar cause because it is about the only thing that will or could galvanise Macedonian unity.

              Remember the shiptari gained everything thus far through playing the victim...

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              • The LION will ROAR
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2009
                • 3231

                #22
                The Miracle in the Church of St. Dimitrija before Easter could well be a sign ...
                A sign of bloodshed to come as some have stated..



                Here... it’s happen... Friday the 13th the start of the Macedonian Orthodox Easter
                Or
                Could it just be a coincident..?
                The Macedonians originates it, the Bulgarians imitate it and the Greeks exploit it!

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                • The LION will ROAR
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 3231

                  #23
                  The Macedonians originates it, the Bulgarians imitate it and the Greeks exploit it!

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                  • EgejskaMakedonia
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 1665

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Bill77 View Post
                    -Macedonian citizens will do jack shit and go on with their normal pathetic EU aspired lives. (we are not like the shiptari seek revenge and try to spread fear amongst these no good low life race Shiptari).
                    I wouldn't completely write off any action from the Macedonian public. I mean, people seemed damn well pissed off about this, and that's perfectly understandable. A protest has already been somewhat organised, and many are commenting for it to take effect immediately, instead of delaying it until after Easter Sunday. I haven't seen Macedonians so eager to take action for a long time. Of course facebook is one thing, but doing something about it is another...but let's not discount their efforts yet in this particular instance.

                    Like I said earlier, the murder of adolescents or even people in their early twenties isn't taken lightly anywhere. We've seen it in Melbourne when the police shot that young boy, we've seen it in Greece, and even Macedonia which resulted in protests against police brutality. Only this time police aren't involved. If Albanians really were behind this, I'm quite confident the Macedonians won't let this slip. As apathetic as they have been to date, everyone has a breaking point. This will undoubtedly send many beyond that point.

                    Have a look at the event page: http://www.facebook.com/groups/205793006198720/

                    The Government has already tried to kill any speculation that the killer/s were Albanian, in order to avoid 'ethnic tensions.' It's sad that they can't stand behind their own people for once.

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                    • The LION will ROAR
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 3231

                      #25
                      VIDEO Macedonia key after the murders of young men: Albanians stoned the house, arrived at the specialists!

                      Lined up and executed: In Skopje were killed and four young men because everything he saw ...

                      NEW 15:29 >>> The situation was tense after murder of four young and one middle-aged man near Skopje. The inhabitants of the village from which they were killed Albanians stoned the houses, B92 reports.

                      It was confirmed that they killed the old boys 18-20 years from Skopje settlement Industrious and 45-year-old from the village Creševo, but police have not released further details. Some media have quoted assertion that the population is ethnic-motif, followed by the Interior Ministry urged not to raise tensions. Locals protest, and there was a few incidents.



                      As the police in Macedonia confirmed for B92, the people on the streets, roads are blocked and tensions are high, and there were stoning houses of Albanians. Unofficially it was learned that the fire and one bus, while the television is "24" in its program, confirmed that its cameraman was attacked and reiterated an appeal to the Ministry of Interior and the calming of tensions.

                      The inhabitants of Macedonian villages and Smiljkovci Creševo ​​blocked the highway this morning near Skopje to protest the murders, and local residents blocked the road to the village Radisani where four young men killed. They seek to find the killer before. Police sent reinforcements and not leaking vehicles and journalistic teams, and residents have threatened reporters that they would break the camera if you enter the village.

                      Police quickly formed a special unit in charge of this case, visited the venue is top of the Macedonian police, led by Minister Gordana Jankulovska. Because of potential rioting in the Radiševo send members Alfi, a special unit of the Macedonian police.

                      9:43 - four boys and one elderly man were killed near Skopje, and their bodies were found in the night between Thursday and Friday, said the Macedonian police, B92 reports.

                      No official data, but it is considered that killed four young men aged around 20 years from the vicinity of Skopje and an elderly resident of a nearby village Creševo.

                      The bodies of Macedonian young men and a villager found the fishermen in the artificial lake near Skopje, and it is believed that the most likely victims of yesterday during the afternoon were on the fishing.

                      According to unofficial information from police sources which carries B92, the first four boys were killed, and then an elderly man who accidentally found himself in this place. Macedonian media report that the boys were "lined up before they were killed by firearms," ​​and that four of the five bodies found next to each other, indicating the liquidation.

                      Brother of one of the casualties, probably the oldest murdered, for television, "Channel 5", stated that they were unofficially told that the boys knew the killer and that his brother was killed so as not to witness the massacre.

                      The villagers, according to a local television, they heard gunfire about 20 pm, and that is one of the slain resident of nearby villages skilled, quiet family man who often came to the lake to fish.

                      BIRN transferred gathered statements that are considered to be blamed for the liquidation of Albanians, which could lead to new ethnic intolerance.

                      Police did not officially confirm the details of the murder, a crime scene is under heavy police protection.

                      An autopsy of the victims has not yet been performed, and the police have said that during the day to inform the public about the details of the tragedy.








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                      The Macedonians originates it, the Bulgarians imitate it and the Greeks exploit it!

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                      • Zarni
                        Banned
                        • May 2011
                        • 672

                        #26
                        This is what use to happen in Kosovo in the late 80's and early 90's, there is no doubt Albanians killed the lads and the reasons are obvious

                        Everything now changes
                        Last edited by Zarni; 04-13-2012, 11:30 AM.

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                        • Niko777
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 1895

                          #27
                          This is the work of Albanians!

                          Do not believe in any of BS of the state police who are trying to cover it up:

                          "I ask the media not to make any speculation that (the crime) is connected with interethnic issues ... There is no evidence of that," - police spokesman Ivo Kotevski

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                          • Zarni
                            Banned
                            • May 2011
                            • 672

                            #28
                            Niko everyone knows, we do and the public rest easy there. I just want to tell all the World what the Albanians do and how they act with in our Country today

                            Not for days to pass to read a biased politically a pologetic media report out there some were.

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                            • Daniel the Great
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2009
                              • 1084

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Niko777 View Post
                              This is the work of Albanians!

                              Do not believe in any of BS of the state police who are trying to cover it up:

                              "I ask the media not to make any speculation that (the crime) is connected with interethnic issues ... There is no evidence of that," - police spokesman Ivo Kotevski

                              What a load of fucken bullshit Kotevski. This was no doubt the evil doings of Albanian terrorist scum.

                              The war has officially began. Боже чувај ја Македонија и Македонскиот народ.

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                              • Zarni
                                Banned
                                • May 2011
                                • 672

                                #30


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                                But Macedonia isnt Kosovo Macedonia is our Country and were a more numerous then the murders and terrorists it should never be like this

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