2021 Macedonian Citizenship Law, Census and Local Elections

[Carlin]

Interesting fact. In the municipality of Tetovo, 76,000 people have been registered so far (..5 days left).

In 2002 there were 86,580 people.

https://denesen.mk/vo-opshtina-tetov...-imalo-86-580/

[Carlin]

A total of 1,695,549 persons, 526,605 households and 752,916 apartments were counted until 8 pm on Monday in Macedonia’s 2021 Population and Housing Census, according to the State Statistical Office on Tuesday.

These are the alleged numbers despite the quorum party DPNE extending the census registration by 5 days! Legally, and officially the census ended on September 25th, but they are still “counting”, there is even talks of extending it, again!

Keep in mind, there are 1.88m residents who vote, which means over 350,000 residents under the age of 18 are unaccounted for!

199,819 citizens who live abroad have submitted their applications online so far.

Today is the 24rd day of the 2021 Census and there are still two days of census activities to go.

https://www.minareport.com/macedonia...-near-the-end/

[Rogi]

I suspect the number is manipulated just enough (low enough) to try and legitimise the referendum on the name.

1,832,696 is the final number.
Less 204,805 in the Diaspora.

So 1,627,891 in country.

Taking the likely % of those under voting age (18) as being about 21% (based on last census, Albania's age demographic as the high level and the average of the other neighbouring countries).
So less 341,857.

That leaves 1,286,033 in country, at voting age.

50% of that is 643,016 and with a 667K turnout in the name referendum, they'll argue it was legitimate given the 50% voter turnout.

And I think that's the aim of this.

Which is why even just 50K adults living in Macedonia who may have been convinced to boycott the census, may have been the difference to keep the referendum officially invalid.

Also, lots of reports all around d that they we're not door knocked (intentionally, to keep the number just low enough), etc and therefore not evidenced in the census.

[Rogi]

What has been unclear to me (and what I'm hoping I've understood incorrectly and therefore makes my previous post all wrong) is whether the 204K in the Diaspora is in addition to the 1.83M figure of the census, or included in that figure.

[Carlin]

I believe it's not included, but I might be mistaken.

On another note, I read a story that around 15,000 people have been registered in the municipality of Debar. In the last census from 20 years ago, the municipality of Debar had 20,000 people.

[Carlin]

Story from Mina:

"As the census numbers came in this morning, hilarity ensued considering Macedonia has 1.86m registered voters!? Wrap your head around that! MINA’s own high placed sources within the Ministry of Interior have confirmed repeatedly that the number of Albanians in Macedonia has never exceeded 14.7%, a data readily available in the MOI system since every ethnic Albanian checks “Albanian” on their application when obtaining their IDs. In fact, due to massive emigration to Germany, Switzerland and Belgium, the MOI now says there are even less Albanians in the country, around 13.1%."

https://www.minareport.com/macedonia...-in-6-months/#

[Momce Makedonce]

Goce Cvetkovski is running for Mayor of Ohrid as an independent.

I was watching him go head to head with DPMNE and SDSM candidates on Televizija 24 and found him pretty funny and most importantly spoke many truths.

He is anti both main political parties and isn’t afraid to say what he thinks.. clearly!

He has apparently lived in the US for 10 years as he was studying there.

I’m sure many of you will find this a great watch as well, it’s 18 mins worth of what Goce said on the show.

https://www.facebook.com/strugabojko.../?vh=e&extid=0

This is the full show: https://youtu.be/EMqZrsXv62w

He also was on the show with his real Macedonian flag and his shirt “Severna Majkati” lol

[Risto the Great]

Difficult not to like the guy. I think he will win.

[Karposh]

Originally Posted by Risto the Great

Difficult not to like the guy. I think he will win.

This fills me with hope that all is not lost with Macedonia. For the first time in a long time I have managed to come across a person from that sell-out of a place that is not ashamed to be Macedonian and, shock, horror, even proud to be so. The bitch hosting the debate couldn't even hide her disdain for the guy by constantly interrupting him and talking down to him like he was some sort of village idiot. And it's not hard to see why. He is openly displaying pride in being Macedonian which has instantly triggered her leftist unconscious bias against him. Seeing him draped in the Macedonian flag and displaying a message on his T-shirt that goes against the government's wishes is driving her mad with contempt for the guy. I love the way he rips into those other two worthless pieces of shit while they have no come back and just sit there like stunned mullets with no response to give. I hope he does get voted into office and makes good on his promise to fly the real Macedonian flag in front of the Ohrid Council Chambers.

[Momce Makedonce]

Originally Posted by Karposh

This fills me with hope that all is not lost with Macedonia. For the first time in a long time I have managed to come across a person from that sell-out of a place that is not ashamed to be Macedonian and, shock, horror, even proud to be so. The bitch hosting the debate couldn't even hide her disdain for the guy by constantly interrupting him and talking down to him like he was some sort of village idiot. And it's not hard to see why. He is openly displaying pride in being Macedonian which has instantly triggered her leftist unconscious bias against him. Seeing him draped in the Macedonian flag and displaying a message on his T-shirt that goes against the government's wishes is driving her mad with contempt for the guy. I love the way he rips into those other two worthless pieces of shit while they have no come back and just sit there like stunned mullets with no response to give. I hope he does get voted into office and makes good on his promise to fly the real Macedonian flag in front of the Ohrid Council Chambers.

Yes, patrioti are too old fashioned for these modern day progressive types!
How dare you stand up for what you believe in and go against the sell-outs who have no morals or values.

For all the harping on about a better life coming to Macedonia the last 5 years, what good have these morons actually brought to the country?

Here is another shorter interview with Goce:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HqszT7uzbc

I hope he wins in Ohrid