Politics and elections in France

[Gocka]

I've heard of that, we have had similar cases in the US. The problem I have is that I know plenty of 30 year olds who "don't have an ability to understand what is good for them and their ability to make informed decisions" Age is kind of irrelevant to a degree.

Too much burden is put on others and not enough on the individual.

We have similar cases with college girls claiming rape when they wake up next to someone they regret. Then the excuse is, " I was too drunk to make the right choices" so the burden is on the other person to make good choices for you.

I'm sure if I had a daughter, or maybe kids at all, I would probably say FRY UM, but I have seen enough from American teens to know they are horny bastards that will hump anything and know damn well what they are doing.

Originally Posted by Phoenix

There was a legal case in Britain sometime back...it is called 'Gillick Competence'...relates to issues of understanding of minors (<16) in cases of medical law...basically their ability to understand what is good for them and their ability to make informed decisions, the case 'Gillick' was a young girl who went on the pill after consulting her doctor, the mother found out and tried to sue the doctor...anyway...Google it.

[Tomche Makedonche]

Originally Posted by Gocka

I agree there is a double standard, we assume the guy was a lucky dog but the girl would be abused by a pedophile.

I don't know what its like over where you Kangaroo herders live, but here in the USA, a 15 year old girl is MORE than capable of knowing what she is doing.

Either way you have to draw the line somewhere.

In the majority of States in Australia, the age of consent is 16 irrespective of gender, with some states extending that to 16 and 17 year olds specifically for persons deemed to be in a supervisory role, i.e. a teacher. So yes, in Australia what she did would be considered, and charged with, a criminal offence (child sexual abuse) and be labelled a peadophile... but these are the French we are talking about

[Gocka]

The age of consent in the USA varies from I believe 15 to 18. Technically a 21 year old ca be a pedophile for having relations with a 17 year old in some states. I think we tend to be naive about minors and want to see them all as angels. I was a teen not to long ago and we knew what we were doing.

Originally Posted by Tomche Makedonche

In the majority of States in Australia, the age of consent is 16 irrespective of gender, with some states extending that to 16 and 17 year olds specifically for persons deemed to be in a supervisory role, i.e. a teacher. So yes, in Australia what she did would be considered a criminal offence (child sexual abuse) and be labelled a peadophile... but these are the French we are talking about

[Tomche Makedonche]

Originally Posted by Gocka

The age of consent in the USA varies from I believe 15 to 18. Technically a 21 year old ca be a pedophile for having relations with a 17 year old in some states. I think we tend to be naive about minors and want to see them all as angels. I was a teen not to long ago and we knew what we were doing.

https://youtu.be/ZjsufO9hZwo

[Gocka]

LMAO, ah Dave. Comedians are the best at putting these difficult cultural problems in perspective.

I'm surprised I didn't realize you guys had TV's, I imagine you all look like Mick Dundee.

Originally Posted by Tomche Makedonche

https://youtu.be/ZjsufO9hZwo

[Risto the Great]

Originally Posted by Tomche Makedonche

In the majority of States in Australia, the age of consent is 16 irrespective of gender, with some states extending that to 16 and 17 year olds specifically for persons deemed to be in a supervisory role, i.e. a teacher. So yes, in Australia what she did would be considered, and charged with, a criminal offence (child sexual abuse) and be labelled a peadophile... but these are the French we are talking about

In France it is 15 but increases to 18 when dealings with teachers.
If the role was reversed and it was a male teacher, this would have been deemed horrific notwithstanding the devious abilities of many 15 year old girls (young women).

If some old slapper messed up my son's mind at school in the same way, I would have sorted her out myself.

But, with the benefit of hindsight, I can't help but think that her connections to a different age stratification and indeed social connections were a significant contributor to him becoming one of France's youngest leaders.

Ah well, one for the books.

[Soldier of Macedon]

Macron gets slapped out by a Frenchman:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyH14dBSTPA

Not sure about the specific motivation of the slapper, but slapee probably has quite a few slaps coming his way.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-57402753

French President Emmanuel Macron has been slapped in the face on an official visit to the south-east of France. In a video circulating on social media, Mr Macron is seen walking up to a barrier on a trip to Tain-l'Hermitage outside the city of Valence. A man in a green T-shirt slaps Mr Macron in the face before officers quickly move in. The president, meanwhile, is pulled away. Two men have been arrested following the incident, French media report. President Macron later called it an "isolated event". "We must not let ultra-violent people take over the public debate: they do not deserve it," he told French newspaper Le Dauphiné. The man reportedly shouted "Down with Macron-ism" as he slapped the president, as well as "Montjoie, Saint-Denis" - the battle-cry of the old Kingdom of France, in reference to the banner of King Charlemagne. In the video Mr Macron briefly returned to the barrier after the incident and once again interacted with the crowd. "I continued and I will continue," he later told Le Dauphiné. "Nothing will stop me." As yet the identity and motive of the man are unclear. The local prefecture said he and another individual are being questioned by the gendarmerie, in a statement reported by AFP news agency.

[Soldier of Macedon]

https://www.novamakedonija.com.mk/ma...0%D0%B5%D0%B3/

Претседателот на Владата Зоран Заев денеска во Париз се сретна со францускиот претседател Емануел Макрон. По средбата тие одржаа заедничка прес-конференција, на која меѓудругото францускиот претседател истакна дека Македонија заслужува да ги почне преговорите за членство со ЕУ. Тука сум да помогнам за да се изнајде решение со Бугарија – додаде Макрон. Заев е во работна посета на Франција, придружуван од Никола Димитров и Бујар Османи.

The Prime Minister Zoran Zaev met today in Paris with the French President Emanuel Macron. After the meeting, they held a joint press conference, at which, among other things, the French President stressed that Macedonia deserves to start membership negotiations with the EU. "I am here to help find a solution with Bulgaria," Macron added. Zaev is on a working visit to France, accompanied by Nikola Dimitrov and Bujar Osmani.

Too bad the guy who slapped the French clown didn't hold back for a few more days.

[Risto the Great]

I love the idea of "membership negotiations". Can you imagine how hard Macedonians would be biting the pillow in any negotiation process?

[Soldier of Macedon]

https://www.reuters.com/world/us-reg...al-2021-09-17/

WASHINGTON, Sept 17 (Reuters) - The United States regrets France's decision to recall its ambassador from Washington and will continue to be engaged in the coming days to resolve differences between the two countries, a White House official said on Friday. France recalled its ambassadors to the United States and Australia after Australia struck a deal with the United States and Britain which ended a $40 billion deal to purchase French-designed submarines.

With Merkel's departure, the little weasel who rules France thinks of himself as the new leader of the EU, but it appears Macron's oversized sense of self-importance just got a reality check. Au revoir Frenchy. On a side note, Biden had another case of memory loss when he forgot the name of Australia's PM when addressing him during the announcement of the deal, but that's no longer a surprise.