Racism and Chauvinism a very Greek trait

[Risto the Great]

Disgusting.

[TrueMacedonian]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...ol-423017.html

Greece horrified by racist gang rape in school

The gang rape of a 16-year-old star pupil in the toilets of her Greek school has sent shock waves through the country.


The basic facts of the case are bad enough: a girl was allegedly raped for an hour by four boys while three girls watched, one of them filming it all on her mobile phone. But what has made headlines here is the reaction to the incident, some of it decidedly racist.

The girl is Bulgarian. Not only have she and her mother had to leave the village where they have lived since 1999 after receiving threats, but the mother says the school is refusing to talk to her, and the girl claims the rape was accompanied by racist insults. The village mayor said that there should be some consideration for the boys "who were upset by all this as well". One of the boys charged is the son of one of the teachers there, while another is the son of a local policeman.

Even the Greek president, Karolos Papoulias, has spoken out on the incident. "Greeks have experienced emigration and racism and we will not impose what we have been through on the immigrants living and working here," he said.In the past 15 years more than one million immigrants, mainly from Eastern Europe, have come to Greece, which has a population of almost 11 million. This is cited as the main reason for racist incidents in schools across Greece.

The four boys have now been charged with rape. If convicted, they face up to 20 years in juvenile centres or in jail.

[Bill77]

I am stunned TM. What a evil place. What an evil race.

I would love to know if this poor girl is literally Bulgarian,
Or a Macedonian Girl and the media is to afraid to call her a Macedonian. You know how it is, god forbid allowing to come out that their actually is Macedonians existing and living in greece.

[TrueMacedonian]

Originally Posted by Bill77

I am stunned TM. What a evil place. What an evil race.

I would love to know if this poor girl is literally Bulgarian,
Or a Macedonian Girl and the media is to afraid to call her a Macedonian. You know how it is, god forbid allowing to come out that their actually is Macedonians existing and living in greece.

She's Bulgarian.

[TrueMacedonian]

Originally Posted by Risto the Great

Disgusting.

That's just one word to describe the chaotic state of modern "greece". Here's something else that needs to be further circulated. Especially for British women - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worl...nt-prison.html

'Wild dog' Corfu rapist jailed after attacks on British holidaymakers

A Greek rapist who targeted British holidaymakers in Corfu was re-jailed today and charged with further attacks.
Dimitris Aspiotis appeared in a magistrates court on the holiday island where two women judges ordered he be returned to a mainland prison.
The man dubbed the 'wild dog' who lived rough near the party town of Kavos was also accused of additional rapes of women over the past decade, using the threat of knifing his victims.
After the hearing, the 38-year-old said he ‘repented’ for the rapes and asked for ‘forgiveness for the harm I have done to the British women and their families’

Corfu island magistrate Maria Kelesidou and prosecutor Maria Dairousi jointly ordered 38-year old Greek Dimitris Aspiotis sent to Tripolis prison in the Peloponnese, southern Greece.
They also charged him with violating the terms of his release while on a suspended sentence for rape and robbery of British women since 1997, when he was only 25- years-old.

He was additionally charged with the illegal possession and use of a weapon - a knife - and of inflicting bodily injuries on some of his victims.
The imprisonment decision and additional charges were taken after police brought new evidence against Aspiotis.
They were added to last week’s charges of raping four British holidaymakers near Kavos resort between July 12th and August 19th this summer.
According to the evidence presented in the Corfu magistrate’s court, Aspiotis had been sentenced to six years imprisonment on charges of raping three British women between 1997 and 2005.

That brings the total of formally reported and documented rapes of British holidaymakers since 1997 to seven.

He is believed to have been responsible for many more cases, but which the British women never reported for fear of legal complications and social embarrassment.
Aspiotis was released earlier this year after serving three of the six years. The remaining three were suspended on promises of good conduct, after bail was paid by Corfu Evangelists.

This was reportedly done on humanitarian grounds because of Aspiotis’ poverty and unemployed status.
Police evidence showed that, instead of conforming, Aspiotis returned to his past habits with a vengeance.

After trying in vain to get a job but failing because of his police and prison record, he took to the densely wooded forest of Arkoudila outside Kavos resort where he would ambush his British victims as they headed for isolated beaches.

He gave himself up on the night of August 25 after a six-day hunt with dog patrols by police commandos, who ringed off the forest and cut off his food supplies.

The operation was witnessed by the British Consul to Greece, Alison Becket, who flew in because of the growing panic among British tourists on Corfu island.
Corfu police Brigadier Yotis Theocharis, who headed the operation said that no general warning was put out to British tourists so as not to provoke a wider panic.
He said the delay in catching Aspiotis was due to the density of the forest and his numerous hideouts.
The 38-year old Greek was handcuffed when led to the magistrate’s hearing today. He still wore dirty clothes and had a thick beard, which he grew during the six weeks that he lived in the forest.

He had testified last week that he resorted to the rape and robbery of his victims because he was a social outcast, and this was the only way he could get sex and the basic means of financial survival.
His lawyer Florent Kavadas, who was appointed to the court because of his own inability to pay for legal counsel, said that he would seek psychiatric help for his client.
According to Foreign Office statistics, Greece has the highest number of British rape victims in the world.

This is believed to be due to the excessive drinking of young holiday makers and the fact that the country still has vast stretches of isolated beaches.


One of the comments made on this particular story from the link provided above is remarkably indicative of what a toilet bowl state modern "greece" truly is.

I live in greece,and im very suprised this hasnt been covered by the greek media ATALL not one mention of it on any tv channel,its disgusting,and yet they are quick to do reports on rowdy british tourists,what hypocrites also a greek paper called (the thema) has attacked the Daily Mail of distorting the truth!

- katerina, Patra,Greece, 30/8/2010 23:31

[Onur]

http://www.ekathimerini.com/4dcgi/_w...04/2010_116517

Youths cleared of rape sue pupil for slander

The court ruled that the boys did engage in group sex but that the girl, aged 15 at the time, had consented to it.

This is really disgusting...

But what kind of laws Greece has? In Turkey, offenders can only claim like "she had consented" if the victim is over 18 years old but if she is not an adult, it doesn't matter if she had consented or not. The rapist gets charged for rape and gets maximum sentence. I was thinking that this law is same in every EU country but wtf is this;"The court ruled that the boys did engage in group sex but that the girl, aged 15 at the time, had consented to it"

How come they can decide like the children consented by her own will??? She is not an adult ffs!!!

[Bill77]

Originally Posted by Onur

This is really disgusting...

But what kind of laws Greece has? In Turkey, offenders can only claim like "she had consented" if the victim is over 18 years old but if she is not an adult, it doesn't matter if she had consented or not. The rapist gets charged for rape and gets maximum sentence. I was thinking that this law is same in every EU country but wtf is this;"The court ruled that the boys did engage in group sex but that the girl, aged 15 at the time, had consented to it"

How come they can decide like the children consented by her own will??? She is not an adult ffs!!!

This law is all around the world, ecept mabe in greece and possibly places like Somalia

Originally Posted by TrueMacedonian

She's Bulgarian.

Did or has the bulgarian media and government jump up and down about it like the did against our courts regarding the Mitrova case.

[TrueMacedonian]

Comments on youtube videos are a really good place to see racist and chauvenistic comments by the confused modern "greeks". Here's a video - YouTube - Losing Their Marbles - Greece

and here we go with some comments so typically part of a daily modern "greek" diet:

NightmareSituation
2 months ago

@kajaas644 why all you albanians so angry all the time...it's Greece's fault the commies ruined your country for 50 years???...if it wasn't for Greece, albania wouldn't have half it's economy...maybe that's why your so angry, cause your dependent on Greece for your survival

Sid7Vicious
2 months ago

What the deal with you albanians... The communists destroyed your country and you still are angry with us.. We opened the boarders and welcomed tens of thousant albanians to come here... Seriously its funny cuz theres no Albanian living in Greece that has any problem with us.. Most albanians that hate us live in Albania or USA.. very strange indeed..

Notice the "hey we gave you a life" pep talk from the chauvenist modern "greeks".(Funny how they talk to their brother Albanians) Wait it gets even more typical:

nikoz78
1 month ago

The fact is the Ottomans did not give Lord Elgin permission to take the marbles.. he just did it. That is a historical fact. That being said, the Turks violated Greece in so many ways.. and still does to this very day. The English government is certainly a major enemy of Greece, same as the U.S. government (the most vile and evil government in history). Give the marbles back London. Venice give back our treasure you looted in 1204. Turks give Constantinople and Smyrna back! Barbarians all!

Notice the victim mentality here. And everyone has to give baby grko everything baby grko desires from a ventian teet to a city that never belonged to them. And everyone is a barbarian. Read on it gets even more typical when a Macedonian steps in:

CAKIMacedonian
1 month ago

Freedom and human rights for the Macedonians in Greece!

Give us back our land!

UNITED MACEDONIA

SMYRNAfreedom
1 month ago

FYROM A COMMUNIST DREAM: Communist leader Dimitrov' Secret Diary, "we talk about Macedonian Nation which consists of Bulgarians, Serbs and Greeks? Is it possible for Macedonia to exist as an independent state or in the frame of the confederation of Southern Slavs, regardless of the ETHNOGRAPHICAL CONCOCTION that it is?"

FYROM people are not Macedonian - they were used first by Bulgaria and then by the Communists to try to control the Greek North Aegean

Here is where someone with common sense steps in and steps on the imposter hellenes feeble tales of mythistory:

boy18inva
1 month ago The Greeks of today have about as much in common with the Greeks who built the Parthenon, as today's average Englishman has with the people who built Stonehenge.

So it's a rather weak argument to claim that the Parthenon sculptures "belong" to today's Greeks. Most ethnologists state that today's average Greek is really only a small part "ancient" Greek, but instead a mixture with Slavic and Turkish blood.

texniki1
1 month ago boy18inva hehehehehehehehehe what a unhistoric hypocrite liar you foookn are!

where the hell did you think of all of this crap?heheheheheheh

mix of turks mix of slavs ? were a remix WOW

Parthenon sculptures DO AND WILL ALWAYS BELONG TO US GREEKS,

HYPOCRITE MORON!go to sleep with obama maybe he will tell you another story

Supermagos9
2 weeks ago FUCK YOU, British Museum! There is NOTHING "British" about you, you should be called Looters Museum. Fuck Elgin and the whole Elgin family!

scarface4never
2 weeks ago

@boy18inva ok.... time out !!

-Comparing the Stonehenge with the parthenon?? go commit a suicide pal

-Weak argument that Sculptures *belong* to Greeks?? yeah right so silly of me to think that you own your grandparents house/items after they pass away...

-Mixture of Slavic and Turkish blood?? Yeah thats why we love each other so much .. not our fault your family hate you so much!! Nationality aint some cocktail!! Of course WE ARE NOT the ancient Greeks thats WHY we call them ANCIENT -WE R GREEKS

Oh the hatred for a few marbles lol. These idiots have lost their marbles since the 19th century when King Otto called his Albanian subjects Hellenes and they went nuts trying to figure out what that derogatory name meant lol. Here's more racism and denial:

Obasiliasfilosofos
1 week ago

@texniki1

Exactly right, Those sculptures belong to Greece regardless of the racial purity of modern Greeks, Last time I checked Brits were "Germano-Celts and south Asians" with no Hellenic ancestry..

Anybody who says "mix of turks" doesn't know history, Christian men could not marry Muslim women in the ottoman empire, The only people with greek ancestry mixed with Turk is the "Turks" of Turkey.. Only the Pontics have some traces of Scythian in them and it predates the "Oghuz turks"..

Check out the flag comment here:

Obasiliasfilosofos
1 week ago @nikoz78

America and Britain is the birthplace of Philhellen heroes like Lord Byron, The Common people in Western Europe and america have always been our friends and admirers (pupils almost) much like the Latin Romans of antiquity , but their politicians and Kings have often been our enemies...

Its true that the "establishment" in London and Washington, Even Paris and Berlin is not to be trusted ,Which is why I dislike our flag since it is essentially a blue British East-Indo company flag

Now here's more revelations from the same idiot that he's actually Albanian who believes he is a hellene lol

Obasiliasfilosofos
1 week ago

@Sid7Vicious

The communist regime conditioned them to hate us, using everything from "bogus historical revisionism" and milking the crap out of the Cham issue...

I descend of Constantinopolian Rumlars and have some arvanite ancestry, Most albanians of Albania seem to be paranoid uncultured Hellenephobes.. I have in recent years been able to forgive the Turks (as a people) for 1955 and instead I blame their "corrupt gov & stratocrat military" for wronging my family way back.

And now the Albanian claims he is a Macedonian somehow lol confused rat heads lol

Obasiliasfilosofos
1 week ago

@CAKIMacedonian

Macedonians are Greek you dumb ass, How can we deny freedom and rights to ourselves?

Obasiliasfilosofos
1 week ago

@boy18inva

The only people with greek ancestry mixed with Turk is the "Turks" of Turkey

Those artifacts belongs to Greece and it is the property of the Greek state and was taken without even the approval of the Ottoman Governor back in the day, Our "blood" is irrelevant we are the rightful inheritors of ancient Greece wither you like it or not...

Muslim could not marry Christian men, So no "miscegenation" occurred the ottoman empire, All Janissaries were kicked out a century ago

Here's what most of these rat heads are very typical of. Attacking someone personally because they suffer from an inferiority complex as well as an identity crisis:

hellenic1978
7 months ago 4 @judyroodi what about ur own misery JUNKIE? are you still looking for albanian and greek junkies in Monastiraki?? i heard junkies are incredibly miserable persons without love and attention from their FAMILIES youtube is like a narcotic to you isn't it? where you can draw at last some attention it would be a great accomplishment for you to trick greeks with ur fake accounts and you call that fun? i wonder hasn't somebody explained to you that its LOVE that makes people happy ?...obviously not,

[TrueMacedonian]

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/01/wo.../01greece.html

Attacks on Immigrants on the Rise in Greece

By NIKI KITSANTONIS
Published: December 1, 2010

ATHENS — A wave of violent attacks against immigrants by suspected right-wing extremists has put Muslims and the police on alert in rundown parts of Athens with burgeoning migrant populations.

Immigrants have been beaten and stabbed near central squares, and several makeshift mosques have been burned and vandalized. In the most grievous attack, at the end of October, the assailants locked the door of a basement prayer site and hurled firebombs through the windows, seriously wounding four worshipers.

“The attacks are constant — I’ve never seen anything like this,” said Naim Elghandour, who moved to Athens from Egypt in the 1970s and now heads the Muslim Association of Greece. “I used to be treated like an equal. Now I’m getting death threats.”

Tensions in neglected, crime-ridden parts of Athens with growing immigrant communities have been mounting over the past two years. Highlighting expanding public discontent, the extreme right-wing group Chrysi Avgi, or “Golden Dawn,” won its first ever seat on the Athens City Council in local elections three weeks ago. The group mustered strong support in working-class neighborhoods in the capital and elsewhere in Greece by describing migrants as a drain on the economy, which is reeling from a debt crisis, and calling for immediate deportations.

The Greek news media linked the group to the violence after a spray-painted cross merged with a circle — a symbol used by extreme rightists worldwide — was found on the wall of a firebombed prayer site. But the police have not confirmed a connection, saying no arrests have been made. The group did not respond to requests for comment.

Thanassis Kokkalakis, a police spokesman, said the problem was complex. He said that while “extremist elements” were believed to be behind certain attacks, there was also violence between migrants of different ethnic origins, muggings of Greeks by poverty-stricken foreigners and clashes between extreme rightists and left-wing protesters.

“All this chaos stems from a constantly growing population of immigrants in these areas,” said Mr. Kokkalakis, noting that about 150 migrants arrived in Athens daily despite the mobilization of European Union guards in early November at Greece’s land border with Turkey. “The upheaval has fueled aggravation among residents, which is being exploited by extremist groups.”

The residents of the problem areas are divided: Some want dialogue and better policing, while others are taking matters into their own hands. Elderly and middle-aged residents often sit in local squares during the daytime, shouting abusive statements at migrants when they go by. Small gangs of teenagers stalk the neighborhoods by night, but it remains unclear if they are locals or visiting extremists.

The police have stepped up patrols following reports of attacks by vigilantes who, locals say, are as young as 14. “I saw three kids bashing an Afghan man with wooden poles until blood ran down his face,” said Muhammad, the Syrian manager of a convenience store in Aghios Panteleimonas, once a lively neighborhood, now a no-go zone. Like other migrants living in the area, he would not give his surname for fear of reprisals.

The exact number of attacks remains unclear. “The victims are usually too scared to go to police,” said Thanassis Kourkoulas, a spokesman for Deport Racism, a group that offers targeted migrants advice and support.

Others say this reflects a general trend in Europe. “Hate crimes against Muslims are underreported and underrecorded,” said Taskin Soykan, who advises the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe on combating racial intolerance.

The attacks in Greece mirror similar incidents in other European countries, including Switzerland, where a referendum last November led to a ban on the construction of minarets on mosques, and in France and Italy, where the authorities have deported Roma residents and immigrants.

“The difference in Italy is that most of the attacks were in the provinces, while in Greece they are in the heart of the capital, which is potentially far more explosive,” Liz Fekete of the Institute of Race Relations in London said. “The common factor is the formation of vigilante groups, egged on by the far right.”

Angry protesters, including some thought to be right-wing extremists, had to be restrained by the police last month when thousands of Muslims congregated in several Athens squares for a religious festival. At one site, officers fired tear gas to disperse a small group of demonstrators, who continued their protest from the balconies of apartment complexes, pelting worshipers with eggs and playing loud music to disturb the prayers.

The day after the protests, government officials said a stalled project to build an official mosque was back on track. Athens is the only capital of the original 15 E.U. member states to lack a state-approved mosque.

Although the country’s influential Orthodox Church has given its support to the project, opinion polls show that half of Athens’s five million residents oppose the creation of a mosque to serve the capital’s Muslim community, which numbers about 500,000.

“A large mosque with minarets in the city center will be a provocation,” said Dimitrios Pipikios, the head of a residents’ group in Aghios Panteleimonas, where Chrysi Avgi drew 20 percent of the vote in recent elections.

Mr. Pipikios said the only way to ease tensions was to deport immigrants. “There is no room for us all,” he said, adding that extreme rightists were patrolling the area “because the police are not doing their job.”

Other residents said they felt intimidated. “The situation is totally out of control,” said Maria Kanellopoulou, who wants not deportations but the better social integration of immigrants.

The local authorities are determined to tackle the problem, said a spokesman for Giorgos Kaminis, the newly elected mayor of Athens.

“Chasing immigrants away from city squares is an established technique of extreme rightists, and we are seeking advice on how to deal with it,” said the spokesman, Takis Kampilis, who has approached the municipal authorities in Germany, who have averted similar campaigns by neo-Nazis. The new mayor is also planning to improve health care and housing for migrants and organize street markets where they can legitimately sell wares rather than touting illegally on street corners.

Ms. Fekete said increasing integration would help, but to stamp out extreme violence, local and central governments must condemn it in strong terms. “If the authorities do not speak out, public tolerance of the violence will grow,” she said. “This is a wake-up call.”

[Risto the Great]

Originally Posted by TrueMacedonian

Mr. Pipikios said the only way to ease tensions was to deport immigrants. “There is no room for us all,” he said, adding that extreme rightists were patrolling the area “because the police are not doing their job.”

I agree. They should start with the 1,000,000 former Turkish nationals that came to Greece 80 years ago.