United Macedonia Diaspora

[Vangelovski]

Victor,

What's so difficult with posting a link to where you supposedly responded to the questions about your support for the Badinter Principle? I am yet to see those responses.

Your worming will not work here.

[vicsinad]

Originally Posted by Vangelovski

Victor,

What's so difficult with posting a link to where you supposedly responded to the questions about your support for the Badinter Principle? I am yet to see those responses.

Your worming will not work here.

You have difficulties comprehending and interpreting anything anyone writes. You want the evidence so bad, go to the original topic about what was said about the BP, and then examine how the conversation progressed.

Your irresponsibility may work around here, but in the real world it doesn't.

[Vangelovski]

Originally Posted by vicsinad

You have difficulties comprehending and interpreting anything anyone writes. You want the evidence so bad, go to the original topic about what was said about the BP, and then examine how the conversation progressed.

Your irresponsibility may work around here, but in the real world it doesn't.

Victor, you are a liar and you are now trying to cover up the fact that you have never addressed those key questions that I posed and that you don't even want to address those questions because it will show you up for the worm that you are.

You are neither able to address the issue of why the vote of one ethnic group (a minority) should be greater than both all other minorities and the majority or what "rights" you would like to see protected by the Badinter Principle.

In the Macedonian case, this "special" minority is the Albanian community. Why are the Albanians of such importance? What makes their natural and civil rights more important than those of eveyone else, majority and other minorities included?

You claim you do not support the special privileges under the FA, but you refuse to tell use which supposed "rights" you do support to be protected by the Badinter Principle.

You've been asked repeadetly to address these issues or at least provide a link to where you think you have. That's a fairly simple request.

[vicsinad]

Originally Posted by Vangelovski

Victor, you are a liar and you are now trying to cover up the fact that you have never addressed those key questions that I posed and that you don't even want to address those questions because it will show you up for the worm that you are.

You are neither able to address the issue of why the vote of one ethnic group (a minority) should be greater than both all other minorities and the majority or what "rights" you would like to see protected by the Badinter Principle.

In the Macedonian case, this "special" minority is the Albanian community. Why are the Albanians of such importance? What makes their natural and civil rights more important than those of eveyone else, majority and other minorities included?

You claim you do not support the special privileges under the FA, but you refuse to tell use which supposed "rights" you do support to be protected by the Badinter Principle.

You've been asked repeadetly to address these issues or at least provide a link to where you think you have. That's a fairly simple request.

So irresponsible.

[Vangelovski]

Originally Posted by vicsinad

So irresponsible.

What does that even mean? Are you just trying to throw a word around to deflect your ill-thought out support for the Badinter Principle, an anti-Macedonian mechanism?

I'm asking two simple questions, why can't you even attempt to address them? I'll repeat them again:

1. What is so special about the Albanians that their natural and civil rights are more important than those of eveyone else, Macedonians and other smaller minorities included?

2. Which supposed "rights" do you support being protected by the Badinter Principle?

[Bill77]

Originally Posted by Vangelovski

What does that even mean? Are you just trying to throw a word around to deflect your ill-thought out support for the Badinter Principle, an anti-Macedonian mechanism?

I'm asking two simple questions, why can't you even attempt to address them? I'll repeat them again:

1. What is so special about the Albanians that their natural and civil rights are more important than those of eveyone else, Macedonians and other smaller minorities included?

2. Which supposed "rights" do you support being protected by the Badinter Principle?

Vic.....i have been sitting on the sideline with this conversation till now. I am so frustrated at your dodging that i had to say something. I am interested in your answer, so please address these questions as i feel its important you do because by avoiding them, we can jump to conclusions regarding your character which is not favourable for you.

[George S.]

Vicsinad Regardless of your responses nothing changes supposedly you are a macedonian you are still a sell out merchant.That is the crux of the argument macedonia has to contend with people like you.In the end you are not for the cause & hence you are anti macedonian.You should hope you are something else than a macedonian.Your situation is in the worst possible scenario.
To me your responses are wishy washy at best.You forget or pretend to forget who you are really dealing with just for your info Tom is a doctorate he has been kind & patient with you.Rtg the site owner has also been kind & patient with you.Tom has summed it up"No Victor, you have done no such thing. No amount of worming will get you out of this one. Either post a link to where you think you've addressed these points or address them here again."
you are just avoiding real scrutiny answers to wishy washy at best.That's the reality Macedonia has to contend with people like you we just have your word that you are macedonian.After what you have said & are saying you should be ashamed of yourself. a sellout merchant and a stupid traitor who can't answer simple questions...

[Tomche Makedonche]

Zdravo Vicsinad,

Judging from the comments by some of the forum members, it would appear as though there’s still multiple ways your view may be interpreted, if it is in your interest for Macedonians to come to understand one another, I think some further clarification in this regard would be both appropriate and appreciated, as right now I can’t personally say that this exchange has been overly productive, unless of course that was your intention.

[Risto the Great]

Originally Posted by vicsinad

This coming from someone too incompetent to read or comprehend someone's post...as you have already proved on this thread.

Or perhaps you have selective reading disorder?

Incompetence is not my strong point.
Just point it out. I ask this because I am quite positive you have not explained anything about these points. Honestly, it is getting tiresome and so reminiscent of my early dialogue with UMD that I swear I must be talking to Meto himself right now.

Originally Posted by vicsinad

So irresponsible.

Really? If you feel you have explained yourself, then it must have been such a bad job that everyone instantly forgot about it. Try again if you believe you have already. We like to help Macedonians.

Keep going around in circles if you like. It is tiresome. But if you are being honest here, you should feel compelled to back up your statements. Explain where you disagreed with the Framework Agreement since before we started taking you to task on the matter. You said you had explained it.

I can certainly see where you placed your faith in the Badinter principle and felt it was an acceptable amplification of rights for ethnic Albanians. I can see it, I'm disgusted with it ... but I can see it. I'm far more interested how someone can believe how the Framework Agreement could be deemed to be flawed given your faith in the Badinter principle as it applies to ethnic Albanians in Macedonia.

But you know this and this is why you have been avoiding the obvious and inevitable surrender on the issue. Carry on for a little longer. But some honesty would be appreciated and is expected.

[vicsinad]

Originally Posted by Vangelovski

I'm asking two simple questions, why can't you even attempt to address them? I'll repeat them again:

1. What is so special about the Albanians that their natural and civil rights are more important than those of eveyone else, Macedonians and other smaller minorities included?

2. Which supposed "rights" do you support being protected by the Badinter Principle?

There is so much bias woven into your questions, no wonder why it's impossible for you to get a satisfactory answer.