United Macedonia Diaspora - Page 65

Buktop · 12-11-2009, 02:00 AM

I would also like to ask both Pelister and Indigen if they are involved with ANY diaspora groups and/or personal endeavors regarding Macedonia? If they answer honestly I believe this will answer the question as to why they continue these personal vendetta's against UMD.

By the way, I am not a member of UMD

indigen · 12-11-2009, 02:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buktop

I hope that you are not a student of Political Science so that you can plead ignorance, because you have no clue of what you are talking about Indigen, and if you decided to listen to Pelister aka Paul I would like to know why you chose to listen to such a fantastic liar.

Pelister/Paul is WORTHY of RESPECT, and he has mine!

I have not said anything that I can not backup, so (briefly) what is your problem?

FYI: I know Meto (on Internet) from way back when he first started posting on Makedon Discussion List (and he is lucky the archives have been deleted) and some other fora, he had left a lot tracks and marks. He bombarded, annoyed and frustrated many a Macedonian over the years, I have a few gems saved. :-)

UMDiaspora.org · 12-11-2009, 05:10 AM

The United Macedonian Diaspora (UMD) in commemoration of the 61st Anniversary of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights urges Bulgaria and Greece to recognize the existence of the Macedonian minority within its borders. UMD calls upon the European Union to ensure that their two member states Bulgaria and Greece uphold the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and the Framework Convention for the Protection of National Minorities.

Read full press release: http://umdiaspora.org/content/view/450/1/

King Makedon · 12-11-2009, 03:21 PM

I'm not disappointed. It was so easily to foresee that something like this would happen.

We don't need anyway EU and NATO. It's better to be neutral like swiss.

We are independent. Let's not forget about that. It's our freedom. We make ourselves our laws.

Risto the Great · 12-11-2009, 04:36 PM

Hint for the UMD. The Diaspora is mighty excited by the strong statements made by Ivanov and Gruevski lately. As an example, the RtGD (Risto the Great Diaspora) would have sent a public letter to Gruevski and Co. thanking them for remaining steadfast and strong in their beliefs about our inviolable identity.

The Diaspora is "hard-line" on these matters. The UMD purports to be the voice of the Diaspora yet does not echo quite the same sentiment.

Prolet · 12-11-2009, 05:58 PM

Indigen, What have you got saved?? Metodija has done alot for our Diaspora, he certainly puts in the hard yards.

TrueMacedonian · 12-11-2009, 07:36 PM

Indigen said;

Quote:

Since, the "UMD" CLAIMS to speak for "ALL MACEDONIANS" (MEGALOMANIA GONE BERSERK!!!), (how) did you consult them before sending out what is, IMO, useless dribble in their name?

Indy check out their latest press release here - http://umdiaspora.org/content/view/450/1/

And read the last paragraph and what it states;

Founded in 2004, United Macedonian Diaspora (UMD) is the leading international non-governmental organization addressing the interests and needs of Macedonians and Macedonian communities throughout the world. Headquartered in Washington, D.C., UMD has an office in Melbourne, Australia and Toronto, Canada and representatives in Paris, London, Brussels, Vienna, Kiev, St. Petersburg, and Stuttgart.

Where does it state that they represent ALL Macedonians?

TrueMacedonian · 12-11-2009, 07:39 PM

http://umdiaspora.org/content/view/450/1/

UMD Urges Bulgaria and Greece to Recognize the Macedonian Minority Within Their Borders

WASHINGTON, D.C. – DECEMBER 10, 2009 – The United Macedonian Diaspora (UMD) in commemoration of the 61st Anniversary of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights urges Bulgaria and Greece to recognize the existence of the Macedonian minority within their borders. UMD calls upon the European Union to ensure that their two member states Bulgaria and Greece uphold the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and the Framework Convention for the Protection of National Minorities.

UMD urges Bulgaria and Greece to follow the example of Albania, Croatia, Romania, and Serbia that recognize the existence of a Macedonian minority. In these countries, the Macedonian minorities can practice the Macedonian language unlike in Bulgaria and Greece who have not even signed or ratified the European Charter for Regional or Minority Languages. In the Republic of Macedonia, all minorities are officially recognized by the Constitution of the country and enjoy all democratic rights.

Dispersed throughout Southeast Europe over the past 61 years since the signing of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, Macedonians still find themselves living in neighboring countries such as Bulgaria and Greece, without being able to exercise their most basic human rights. Paradoxically, both of these countries are members of the European Union and NATO, yet some of their citizens are still compelled to continue their struggle for the most basic human rights simply because Bulgaria and Greece do not recognize their Macedonian ethnicity.

Macedonians in Bulgaria and Greece are regularly harassed and intimidated in an effort to deny their fundamental freedoms, particularly the freedom to identify аs one’s ethnic heritage. UMD calls upon the relevant United Nations and the European Union institutions to close a significant gap by recognizing, protecting and promoting the legitimate human rights of the Macedonian people as guaranteed by the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and the Framework Convention for the Protection of National Minorities.

UMD encourages all Macedonians to continue their struggle for basic human rights. UMD urges Macedonians to be active in their communities, to promote the Macedonian cause and to be outspoken in their support of the many Macedonians in Bulgaria and Greece who do not enjoy the freedoms that Macedonians enjoy in the Republic of Macedonia and the rest of the world.

Founded in 2004, United Macedonian Diaspora (UMD) is the leading international non-governmental organization addressing the interests and needs of Macedonians and Macedonian communities throughout the world. Headquartered in Washington, D.C., UMD has an office in Melbourne, Australia and Toronto, Canada and representatives in Paris, London, Brussels, Vienna, Kiev, St. Petersburg, and Stuttgart.

TrueMacedonian · 12-11-2009, 07:42 PM

Thank you for writing this UMD. I am happy you included the plight of not just the Macedonians in modern "greece" but of the ones in Bulgaria as well who seem to take a backseat to the Macedonians in modern "greece". I personally would like to see more written about the Macedonians in Bulgaria with regards to what just happened with the OMO Ilinden Pirin and the BS CoE organization.

Prolet · 12-12-2009, 12:07 AM

TM, Its great that you are posting information on our minority in Pirinska Makedonija, i do think they are very important and they should be mentioned like everyone else.

Spolaj Ti

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12-11-2009, 05:10 AM	#643
UMDiaspora.org Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: United States, Australia, Canada Posts: 525	UMD Urges Bulgaria and Greece to Recognize the Macedonian Minority Within Its Border The United Macedonian Diaspora (UMD) in commemoration of the 61st Anniversary of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights urges Bulgaria and Greece to recognize the existence of the Macedonian minority within its borders. UMD calls upon the European Union to ensure that their two member states Bulgaria and Greece uphold the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and the Framework Convention for the Protection of National Minorities. Read full press release: http://umdiaspora.org/content/view/450/1/

12-11-2009, 03:21 PM	#644
King Makedon Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Germany [another victim of macedonian colonization :) ] & Macedonia Posts: 187	I'm not disappointed. It was so easily to foresee that something like this would happen. We don't need anyway EU and NATO. It's better to be neutral like swiss. We are independent. Let's not forget about that. It's our freedom. We make ourselves our laws. __________________ [SIZE="6"] The world belongs to Macedonia. Macedonia does not belong to the world, especially not to Macedonia's neighbouring countries. [/size]

12-11-2009, 04:36 PM	#645
Risto the Great Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Macedonian Colony of Australia Posts: 15,640	Hint for the UMD. The Diaspora is mighty excited by the strong statements made by Ivanov and Gruevski lately. As an example, the RtGD (Risto the Great Diaspora) would have sent a public letter to Gruevski and Co. thanking them for remaining steadfast and strong in their beliefs about our inviolable identity. The Diaspora is "hard-line" on these matters. The UMD purports to be the voice of the Diaspora yet does not echo quite the same sentiment. __________________ Risto the Great MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA "Holding my breath for the revolution." Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

12-11-2009, 07:39 PM	#648
TrueMacedonian Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 3,809	UMD Urges Bulgaria and Greece to Recognize the Macedonian Minority Within Their Borde http://umdiaspora.org/content/view/450/1/ UMD Urges Bulgaria and Greece to Recognize the Macedonian Minority Within Their Borders WASHINGTON, D.C. – DECEMBER 10, 2009 – The United Macedonian Diaspora (UMD) in commemoration of the 61st Anniversary of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights urges Bulgaria and Greece to recognize the existence of the Macedonian minority within their borders. UMD calls upon the European Union to ensure that their two member states Bulgaria and Greece uphold the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and the Framework Convention for the Protection of National Minorities. UMD urges Bulgaria and Greece to follow the example of Albania, Croatia, Romania, and Serbia that recognize the existence of a Macedonian minority. In these countries, the Macedonian minorities can practice the Macedonian language unlike in Bulgaria and Greece who have not even signed or ratified the European Charter for Regional or Minority Languages. In the Republic of Macedonia, all minorities are officially recognized by the Constitution of the country and enjoy all democratic rights. Dispersed throughout Southeast Europe over the past 61 years since the signing of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, Macedonians still find themselves living in neighboring countries such as Bulgaria and Greece, without being able to exercise their most basic human rights. Paradoxically, both of these countries are members of the European Union and NATO, yet some of their citizens are still compelled to continue their struggle for the most basic human rights simply because Bulgaria and Greece do not recognize their Macedonian ethnicity. Macedonians in Bulgaria and Greece are regularly harassed and intimidated in an effort to deny their fundamental freedoms, particularly the freedom to identify аs one’s ethnic heritage. UMD calls upon the relevant United Nations and the European Union institutions to close a significant gap by recognizing, protecting and promoting the legitimate human rights of the Macedonian people as guaranteed by the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and the Framework Convention for the Protection of National Minorities. UMD encourages all Macedonians to continue their struggle for basic human rights. UMD urges Macedonians to be active in their communities, to promote the Macedonian cause and to be outspoken in their support of the many Macedonians in Bulgaria and Greece who do not enjoy the freedoms that Macedonians enjoy in the Republic of Macedonia and the rest of the world. Founded in 2004, United Macedonian Diaspora (UMD) is the leading international non-governmental organization addressing the interests and needs of Macedonians and Macedonian communities throughout the world. Headquartered in Washington, D.C., UMD has an office in Melbourne, Australia and Toronto, Canada and representatives in Paris, London, Brussels, Vienna, Kiev, St. Petersburg, and Stuttgart. __________________ Slayer Of The Modern "greek" Myth!!!

12-11-2009, 02:00 AM	#641
Buktop Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NJ, USA Posts: 934	I would also like to ask both Pelister and Indigen if they are involved with ANY diaspora groups and/or personal endeavors regarding Macedonia? If they answer honestly I believe this will answer the question as to why they continue these personal vendetta's against UMD. By the way, I am not a member of UMD

12-11-2009, 05:58 PM	#646
Prolet Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 5,241	Indigen, What have you got saved?? Metodija has done alot for our Diaspora, he certainly puts in the hard yards.

12-11-2009, 07:42 PM	#649
TrueMacedonian Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 3,809	Thank you for writing this UMD. I am happy you included the plight of not just the Macedonians in modern "greece" but of the ones in Bulgaria as well who seem to take a backseat to the Macedonians in modern "greece". I personally would like to see more written about the Macedonians in Bulgaria with regards to what just happened with the OMO Ilinden Pirin and the BS CoE organization. __________________ Slayer Of The Modern "greek" Myth!!!

12-12-2009, 12:07 AM	#650
Prolet Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 5,241	TM, Its great that you are posting information on our minority in Pirinska Makedonija, i do think they are very important and they should be mentioned like everyone else. Spolaj Ti

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