United Macedonia Diaspora

[Makedonska_Kafana]

Interesting tidbit about the UMD ..

Seniors, know very little about what the UMD do yet join and attend their wine and cheese parties and the youth seem to know a wee bit more yet are unwilling to join or attend.

Wise Macedonian Youth

[George S.]

I remember when the umd promissed to stop the name negotiations & they wrote letters to gruevski etc.We are still waiting on that one that was a couple of years ago.Now we are aware that it actually supports the name negotiations .As we know that it supports entry into nato or eu by using existing name of "The Fyrom".The greeks are not going to accept entry with that name they will veto the fyrom.Also We know that the umd actually supports the interim accord. Virtually anything the ROM govt supports,the umd it will do in their own interests.So no wonder the umd not wanting to be transparent to members or the MTO did not & still doesn't want to answer RTG's questions about the UMD.Well as Meto found that no answers means no free advertising.

[Vangelovski]

Originally Posted by vicsinad

Easter service and a Macedonian convention can pull together a lot of good Macedonians. Is that all the UMD did (which, in your eyes, amounted to doing a great deal for the Macedonian Cause) before you resigned?

Really, I've never seen an Easter service or a convention pull together (in an organised manner for a specific purpose as per the context of this conversation) a bunch of good Macedonians.

You've tested my patience Victor, get to the point.

[vicsinad]

Originally Posted by Vangelovski

You've tested my patience Victor, get to the point.

Oh, no...I better not ask any questions Tom doesn't want to answer, or else Tom will get impatient.

[Vangelovski]

Originally Posted by vicsinad

Oh, no...I better not ask any questions Tom doesn't want to answer, or else Tom will get impatient.

So as usual, you have no point?

[Makedonska_Kafana]

vicsinad, how many Macedonian events have you attended during the past 12 months and please name them.

[vicsinad]

Originally Posted by Vangelovski

So as usual, you have no point?

And why don't you want to answer the question, Tom?

[Vangelovski]

Originally Posted by vicsinad

And why don't you want to answer the question, Tom?

I already have. What don't you get? Do you have a point? Are you going anywhere with this? Or you just trying to waste virtual space?

[vicsinad]

Originally Posted by Vangelovski

I already have. What don't you get?

So the only "great deal" of positive things that UMD did for the Macedonian cause, prior to your resignation, is pull together good Macedonians?

[Vangelovski]

Originally Posted by vicsinad

So the only "great deal" of positive things that UMD did for the Macedonian cause, prior to your resignation, is pull together good Macedonians?

I don't think your naivety quite realises the significance of that. But I wouldn't expect someone of your 'calibre' to appreciate this.

Few Macedonian organisations have been able to organise and commit intelligent and effective people. But the course UMD took, under Meto's leadership drove them off. I was neither the first nor the last to go.

There were other activities that UMD achieved, which were of value, but some of them were undertaken by myself and some others, without the "blessing" of Meto who along with his cronies resisted forcefully. So, I'm not sure whether that can be technically credited to UMD or not. A lot of this has already been discussed, you might want to read through this thread before parroting the same old stuff.

Get to your point Victor, this is the last time I will respond unless you actually have something of substance to say rather than just repeating the same old BS that has already been addressed.