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Old 02-27-2011, 07:24 PM   #5591
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What we have now in Macedonia is no serious political party willing to defend the Macedonian nation from external aggression.

This confirms Macedonia is one way or another under foreign occupation and oppression, whilst most of the populace is completely ignorant to the fact.
Did you finally wake up Volk! GOOD MORNING, DOBRO UTRO!
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Old 02-27-2011, 07:28 PM   #5592
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What we have now in Macedonia is no serious political party willing to defend the Macedonian nation from external aggression.

This confirms Macedonia is one way or another under foreign occupation and oppression, whilst most of the populace is completely ignorant to the fact.
The country is being run by political whores, and Gruevski is way ahead of the pack in that regard.

There is no principled defence of our rights, not in law. There is no moral defense, and there is certainly no historical defence of our rights. But why not call a spade a spade, and name the position/ideas of the New Greek as irrational? Why not leave it at that, and stop it immediatel. An instant positive effect would be that it would take enormous pressure off the country. Why engage what is fundamentally an irrational idea? In a strange kind of osmosis, the madness of the New Greek has had an affect on the Macedonian leadership. If this is simply about E.U membership - if we are being exposed by Gruevski in such a reckless, shameful and undignified, not to mention humiliating manner all for E.U membership - then someone has to get rid of him because what he is doing is nothing short of insane.

For Christ's sake we are only asking for our basic rights, and asking people to respect them. Is that asking for too much?

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Old 02-27-2011, 07:53 PM   #5593
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It is true that the AMHRC attended a meeting in September of 2009 that was supposed to be between the Federal Macedonian Parliamentary Friendship Group and the Macedonian community (this is not what actually happened as only ONE politician attended the forum). However, we made our own presentation at this very poorly organised gathering and we certainly had nothing to do with UMD's "roadmap"; nor have we had anything to do with it since.

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AMHRC or as we were referred to in the UMD newsletter at the time: "Other Relevant Stakeholders".

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Old 02-27-2011, 08:05 PM   #5594
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I think its time UMD provide a copy of this "roadmap" that noone seems to support or even know about.
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Old 02-27-2011, 08:11 PM   #5595
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I thought you'd never ask.I have written to both Gruevski & Ivanov through emails no feedback from them.I have written the UN they haven't replied to me as yet.I have written to all the politicians in australia to both sides all includes priminister etc Some with feedback..I have written to germany to recognize macedonia.(various Means & ways)I have emailed various Macedonian embassies around the world.I have sent emails to the various eu countries.
So you can see i have done more than you will ever do.Whil'st i'm just one individual & have tried to do something you people are self appointed & no one asked you to do anything.Prior to your postings on MTO no one has actually heard of you.Perhaps if you stop hiding & explain what it is you represent then we'll know.ESpecially when we need so much representation you are letting us down in those stakes.I'm not speaking on my own i know many share my views that you guys are just letting us all down.
Also i wrote on a seperate posting that roadmap terminology no one uses it in australia it's an american terminology.roadshow etc americanism.Stop hiding behind terminology & start speaking some truth for a change you are either with us or against us! looks like you are against us because you are constantly evading questions.Also i have mentioned your name to a few people in the macedonian community & they have never heard of you.

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Old 02-27-2011, 08:17 PM   #5596
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I thought you'd never ask.I have written to both Gruevski & Ivanov through emails no feedback from them.I have written the UN they haven't replied to me as yet.I have written to all the politicians in australia to both sides all includes priminister etc.I have written to germany to recognize macedonia.(various Means & ways)I have emailed various Macedonian embassies around the world.I have sent emails to the various eu countries.
So you can see i have done more than you will ever do.Whil'st i'm just one individual & have tried to do something you people are self appointed & no one asked you to do anything.Prior to your postings on MTO no one has actually heard of you.Perhaps if you stop hiding & explain what it is you represent then we'll know.ESpecially when we need so much representation you are letting us down in those stakes.I'm not speaking on my own i know many share my views that you guys are just letting us all down.
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I would not take any notice of Meto and his BS. Unlike him, you have never claimed to represent the Macedonian people worldwide.

I suggest Meto post a copy of this infamous "roadmap" so we, AUSTRALIAN CITIZENS, can see what exactly what this AMERICAN has been telling OUR AUSTRALIAN politicians.
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Your right Vangelovski they are the ones that are claiming to represent all Macedonians around the world.Perhaps if Meto get's off his high horse & explains this roadmap of his we'll never know.

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Old 02-27-2011, 08:33 PM   #5598
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We've all asked Meto to explain various things over the past several years. He chooses to ignore our questions. I don't see him doing anything differently here.

He claimed AMHRC supported them now we have AMHRC stating they had nothing to do with it.

So what is the truth Meto, other than you compulsively lie?
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Is it possible to view the letter prepared by Droutsas, document #A/65/667-S/2010/67.
It would be interesting to compare diplomatic styles.
I wonder how Macedonia's apologetic style compares to greece's assertive and confident strategy...

I too would like to read UMD's views on this matter...
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Old 02-27-2011, 09:06 PM   #5600
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Great work George s I don't know if they change their mind but they at least get the message. If ten thousand Macedonians did what you did they might change their mind.
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