United Macedonia Diaspora

[Vangelovski]

Originally Posted by Currency Trader

Do you think that an organisation/government/dog club/investment group (regardless of mission) will always do/say the right thing and fulfill every member or non-member wishes?

How about that organisation, at a minimum, broadly aligns itself with the views of the people it pretends to represent?

[julie]

CT, I shall spell something out for you
UMD, united Macedonian Diaspora.
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

how many members are there in this organisation? And dont quote facebook because I have 1500 "friends " on there. My guess is 500. Worldwide.

united - in unity, solidarity, together, cohesively
diaspora - the group of people that are not within RoM

ha ha ha ha ha

they do NOT represent the voice of the people, they are working backwards with the politicians in Rom, forming alliances and these surveys which concern me, there could be a real backlash as a result of this survey, and UMD falsely representing the diaspora
Where has it been put to a vote that the UMD is THE diaspora?
Am sick and tired of people liek yourself that come here and dribble the bullshit

I was very objective when it came to the UMD and called for unity and crap
Until I saw and heard with my own ears and eyes 2 metres away from me what UMD is and represents
allowing negotiations, allowing bullshit prefixes , talking non stop about mission statements and then NOT ALLOWING anyone to ask questions because they (deliberately) ran out of time
Then I woke up.
You can spout their virtues and how wonderful they are , but people that need to blow their own trumpets with their little appendages on their supreme state of wonderfulness have their own self serving interests
This survey should have been conducted in UNITED collaboration with the Macedonian communities
Shut Up

[julie]

And they supported the mpo

[UMDiaspora.org]

Originally Posted by julie

And they supported the mpo

Julie - can you elaborate when UMD supported the MPO?

[Currency Trader]

Originally Posted by Soldier of Macedon

I don't need you to remind me what the topic of this thread is. Bring it on? Get real, lol, show some consistency, you're a roller-coaster and a closet apologist that underwent a short process of clarity and logic before returning to your familiar self. And you're now convinced that it has all 'been cleared', to who, you? Of course it has, you must have had some sleepless nights when that US lackey Koloski was unable to produce a reasonable answer to your (then) reasonable questions.

Perhaps this is your cue to return to the maknews forum and indulge in the usual UMD ass-kissing that is habitually displayed over there. As you can see, nobody here is espousing the same views as yourself. Wonder why? Perhaps we're all wrong and you're right. Let me know if you need help identifying the sarcasm mr 'positive'.

I asked you three simple questions, and you decided to dodge all three of them.

I'll repeat them again:


1. My objectivity and rationale decided to support AMHRC campaign.
Do you have a problem with that? (yes or no)

2. Do you think that an organisation/government/dog club/investment group (regardless of mission) will always do/say the right thing and fulfill every member or non-member wishes? (yes or no)

3. Do think its possible for individuals to objectively judge each separate action that an organisation does? (yes or no)


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Yes, it has all been clear with me as to why UMD did not officially support the campaign - I got my answers and that's what matters for me.

Its irrelevant whether someone agrees with me or not when I question certain arguments in this thread. I'm not dependent on others to agree with me, are you?

Aren't you advocating constructive discussions where different set of opinions are welcomed, or are you advocating some totalitarian way of style where everyone must have the same opinion?

Again, if you wish to take a constructive debate of the difference between an "advocate" and someone who uses "objectivity", let me know.



Regards,
CT


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[Currency Trader]

CT

Do you think that an organisation/government/dog club/investment group (regardless of mission) will always do/say the right thing and fulfill every member or non-member wishes?

Originally Posted by Vangelovski

How about that organisation, at a minimum, broadly aligns itself with the views of the people it pretends to represent?

Vangelovski,
Can you be more specific to what view(s) you are referring to?



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[Currency Trader]

Originally Posted by julie

CT , UMD will not answer any questions which do not see them in a golden light.

Julie,
I can only speak of my own experience. It may take some time, but in the end I have received answers to my questions, both in the public forum and off forum - I think its important to remember that organisations may not answer certain questions in this type of public forum. And this goes not only for UMD.



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[Risto the Great]

Originally Posted by Currency Trader

3. Do think its possible for individuals to objectively judge each separate action that an organisation does? (yes or no)

Yes, except where there is a systematic history of actions that go against a normal Macedonian's belief system. Which applies in this case.

[Vangelovski]

Originally Posted by UMDiaspora.org

Julie - can you elaborate when UMD supported the MPO?

Meto, shall we pull out some old qoutes?

[Vangelovski]

Originally Posted by Currency Trader

CT




Vangelovski,
Can you be more specific to what view(s) you are referring to?



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How about we start with the cause as defined by the MTO?