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Bratot · 06-15-2010, 08:28 AM

That's an achievment!

Vangelovski · 06-15-2010, 08:31 AM

UMD's promotional material is scrapping the bottom of the barrell these days...I thought such an important "national resource" and "defender" of state institutions would be rubbing shoulders with the Camerons and the Obamas.

UMDiaspora.org · 06-15-2010, 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bratot

That's an achievment!

Not really. :-/ An achievement would be when we succeed in getting the University of Oxford to refer to Macedonia as Macedonia.

The point of the posting is to get you all to write a protest note to the University to complain, not to sit around and call the note an achievement.

Bratot · 06-15-2010, 09:12 AM

Do you take us for retards UMD?

We were doing such e-mail campaigns when we were in highschool and have seen dozens of online pettitions... do you know how worth that is?

- ZERO point zero zero zero one

If your action limit on a email campaign and "organizing" a group of spammers with one and the same email message, I wonder how you expect to be taken seriously as the " leading organization for Macedonians worldwide".

There is only one right way and couple side in order to achieve something. You have to go after their pockets.

For example juridical prosecution and media attention directed toward this author, no institution seek negative light especially not "discriminatory" one and harming it's reputation.
The only way to teach those biased authors and the rest who might do the same in future is that no one should mess with us and we are capable enough to go after every each of them if they try.

Plus you will gain money from the case which are not less than 10.000 euros for such subject where you can play all you want among "discrimination, racism, national insult, trauma etc."

And the media love it!

Mikail · 06-15-2010, 10:03 AM

UMD, by the time we get to page 200 of this thread, do you think you could announce;

We at the UMD apologise for our past errors, (and list them).

We undertake an oath to work along with other Macedonian groups and stop the grandstanding we have been attempting to make to date.

The UMD will also turn a new leaf and become a transparent organisation.

What do you say to this kind of announcement guys?

Prolet · 06-15-2010, 12:49 PM

Risto, Australia is the only country in the world where we are recognized as Slav Macedonians, im not going to defend the American administrations here but the Australians one especially the Howard and Rudd Governments have been very poor towards Macedonia.

Macedonian Activist Aco Taleski was right about Australia.

Risto the Great · 06-15-2010, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prolet

Risto, Australia is the only country in the world where we are recognized as Slav Macedonians, im not going to defend the American administrations here but the Australians one especially the Howard and Rudd Governments have been very poor towards Macedonia.

Macedonian Activist Aco Taleski was right about Australia.

Prolet, here is an old saying:

Sticks and stones and assisting Albanian terrorists will break my bones, but names will never hurt me.

Names do hurt a little, but ensuring Macedonia was downgraded to a state of semi sovereignty to suit the interests of USA military and economic strategy in the Balkans was far more damaging. And Buckwit is thankful for this. He should lead the UMD into its new phase in my opinion.

p.s. The AMHRC proved in court here in Australia that "Slav Macedonians" was illegal and therefore inappropriate.

Buktop has not come back to help me with this dilemma yet. He thinks USA has done a great deal for Macedonia. Altruistically I would imagine. He thinks that we can look beyond some of the naughty things the USA has done to Macedonia and that we should be thankful for their assistance with regard to things like the spy fortress in Macedonia now amongst other things.

UMDiaspora.org · 06-15-2010, 06:40 PM

Prime Minister Stephen Harper's Message to Macedonians: YouTube - Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper's Message to the 2nd Annual UMD Global Conference

Vangelovski · 06-15-2010, 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prolet

Risto, Australia is the only country in the world where we are recognized as Slav Macedonians, im not going to defend the American administrations here but the Australians one especially the Howard and Rudd Governments have been very poor towards Macedonia.

Macedonian Activist Aco Taleski was right about Australia.

Prolet, can you post ONE current Australian Government document, website or anything that refers to us as "Slav Macedonians"? Or are you still spreading charsishki muabeti?

Rogi · 06-15-2010, 07:19 PM

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06-15-2010, 08:28 AM	#4101
Bratot Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 2,855	That's an achievment! __________________ The purpose of the media is not to make you to think that the name must be changed, but to get you into debate - what name would suit us! - Bratot

06-15-2010, 08:31 AM	#4102
Vangelovski Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 8,519	UMD's promotional material is scrapping the bottom of the barrell these days...I thought such an important "national resource" and "defender" of state institutions would be rubbing shoulders with the Camerons and the Obamas. __________________ If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14 The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John Adams

06-15-2010, 09:12 AM	#4104
Bratot Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 2,855	Do you take us for retards UMD? We were doing such e-mail campaigns when we were in highschool and have seen dozens of online pettitions... do you know how worth that is? - ZERO point zero zero zero one If your action limit on a email campaign and "organizing" a group of spammers with one and the same email message, I wonder how you expect to be taken seriously as the " leading organization for Macedonians worldwide". There is only one right way and couple side in order to achieve something. You have to go after their pockets. For example juridical prosecution and media attention directed toward this author, no institution seek negative light especially not "discriminatory" one and harming it's reputation. The only way to teach those biased authors and the rest who might do the same in future is that no one should mess with us and we are capable enough to go after every each of them if they try. Plus you will gain money from the case which are not less than 10.000 euros for such subject where you can play all you want among "discrimination, racism, national insult, trauma etc." And the media love it! __________________ The purpose of the media is not to make you to think that the name must be changed, but to get you into debate - what name would suit us! - Bratot

06-15-2010, 10:03 AM	#4105
Mikail Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,338	UMD, by the time we get to page 200 of this thread, do you think you could announce; We at the UMD apologise for our past errors, (and list them). We undertake an oath to work along with other Macedonian groups and stop the grandstanding we have been attempting to make to date. The UMD will also turn a new leaf and become a transparent organisation. What do you say to this kind of announcement guys? __________________ From the village of P’pezhani, Tashko Popov, Dimitar Popov-Skenderov and Todor Trpenov were beaten and sentenced to 12 years prison. Pavle Mevchev and Atanas Popov from Vrbeni and Boreshnica joined them in early 1927, they were soon after transferred to Kozhani and executed. As they were leaving Lerin they were heard to shout "With our death, Macedonia will not be lost. Our blood will run, but other Macedonians will rise from it" Last edited by Mikail; 06-15-2010 at 10:34 AM.

06-15-2010, 12:49 PM	#4106
Prolet Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 5,241	Risto, Australia is the only country in the world where we are recognized as Slav Macedonians, im not going to defend the American administrations here but the Australians one especially the Howard and Rudd Governments have been very poor towards Macedonia. Macedonian Activist Aco Taleski was right about Australia.

06-15-2010, 06:40 PM	#4108
UMDiaspora.org Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: United States, Australia, Canada Posts: 525	Prime Minister Stephen Harper's Message to Macedonians: YouTube - Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper's Message to the 2nd Annual UMD Global Conference __________________ For comments, questions, concerns, please contact us at: United Macedonian Diaspora http://www.umdiaspora.org 1101 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW, 6th Floor, Washington, D.C. 20004, United States Phone: (202) 756-2244, Fax: (202) 756-7323, E-mail: [email protected] PO Box 2153, Hawthorn, Vic. 3122, Australia Phone: 0438 385 466, E-mail: [email protected] 3555 St. Clair Avenue East, Toronto, ON, M1K 1L6, Canada Phone: 416-209-0448, E-mail: [email protected]

06-15-2010, 07:19 PM	#4110
Rogi Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 2,343	Takvoto go boli za Makedonija.

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