United Macedonia Diaspora

[The LION will ROAR]

NO..! They do not represent me...
Did UMD consult with the other Diasporas around the world..or did they decide to take it on without asking our views...?
Who ever wants a name change...then they lost my support..
METO is a soft person..I can see him easily manipulated by others..

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[Buktop]

Originally Posted by Vangelovski

I didn't state it as fact.

US census statistics are much more reliable than Buktopian statistics.

No, you inferred it so as to maintain a degree of deniability, that doesn't change the fact that you are alleging the source of the funding is a government conspiracy.

Have you ever seen the US census question on ethnicity? Do you know people who administrate the US census? Because I have a feeling I may be just a little bit more informed about the US census than you are.

[Risto the Great]

Originally Posted by Buktop

No, you inferred it so as to maintain a degree of deniability, that doesn't change the fact that you are alleging the source of the funding is a government conspiracy.

Have you ever seen the US census question on ethnicity? Do you know people who administrate the US census? Because I have a feeling I may be just a little bit more informed about the US census than you are.

Being informed n'all ... Would you have joined up with the MPO for census purposes Buktop?

[Buktop]

Originally Posted by OziMak

If you want to guess what someone is thinking you need to go back over their history for clues. Some of you seem to have a positive view of the usa while others have the opposite and you each cite examples. You are both right as you are equally both wrong. Go back over usa history and you will see one consistency in their actions - what’s good for the usa is good for the usa and everything else is questionable. The only exception is Israel. But leaving them aside if you are on the positive side of the wind in usas interests then you gain if you are not then you potentially stand to loose. Some might say what’s wrong with that - shouldn’t a countries representatives first concern is their country. The sentiment from the rest of you can be summed up as pick your mates and stick with them. Nice sentiments but unrealistic in politics yet in this pc world it is exactly what we are meant to say and not do. I wont go into the pros and cons of supporting Macedonia now but in reference to the Albanians one needs to remember they are the usas science experiment to show the rest of the Muslim world the usa is not against Muslims just radical terrorist types who happen to be Muslim. Hence the unwavering support for the Albanians in Kosovo and Macedonia and if put to the test they will be against Greece. Gruevski playing nice to the Albanians in parliament is only in keeping with usa rule number one. Gruevskis attempts to include other minorities particularly the other Muslim groups to dilute the Albanians power is condoned by the usa because this action shows the Muslim world the usa and Macedonia like all Muslims equally. No bad publicity from the Muslim world yet achieve your end to dilute the Albania power in Macedonia. Marifet. This is how the usa works.

To answer the question of this thread I’ll start by qualifying my answer with the umd have the coolest name for a Macedonian diaspora organization and it would be great if all Macedonians world wide could present themselves as a united front and be taken more seriously and the umd would be a polished name for such a united front but their back flips and dubious comments from time to time do not fill me with confidence they are upto the task. Rather then killing the umd maybe the faces representing it need changing to not only reflect the views of the Macedonians in the diaspora which is what they should be doing but more importantly be able to do it competently. Surely there are highly educated Macedonians in the diaspora who could better fill the positions.

By the way in a different thread much earlier I proposed Prolet Jankovska and Bucktop for the three diaspora seats in parliament so they can give the what for and set them strait.

I have to say, I completely agree with this post.

Thanks for the nomination by the way

[indigen]

Originally Posted by Risto the Great

A vote for the EU is a vote for the framework agreement. In fact it is even worse than the framework agreement on its own in my opinion. And that is saying something.

Bump!

A good topic thread worthwhile reading, especially if one has not read it before!

[Buktop]

I did vote yes, but I have to also agree with Volk and say, I cannot completely consider any organization or group my sole representative as a member of the Diaspora. I consider UMD one of many organizations that represent me

[Buktop]

Originally Posted by Risto the Great

Being informed n'all ... Would you have joined up with the MPO for census purposes Buktop?

No, not without certain assurances.

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[Vangelovski]

Originally Posted by Buktop

No, you inferred it so as to maintain a degree of deniability, that doesn't change the fact that you are alleging the source of the funding is a government conspiracy.

Have you ever seen the US census question on ethnicity? Do you know people who administrate the US census? Because I have a feeling I may be just a little bit more informed about the US census than you are.

Conspiracy?? US Government funding for charitable organisations is not a conspiracy, nor is it illegal. However, in circumstances such as this one, it does go towards the "moral credentials" of the recieving organisation.

Re the census, the figures are there in black and white, regardless of 'what YOU know'.