United Macedonia Diaspora

[Soldier of Macedon]

Originally Posted by kykypajko

Have you been to Detroit?? A large number of "jugo's" live there.....mainly from the polog pole who enjoy slivo and play primarily serb music at their weddings......

you're gonna need a lot of crucifixes

Why, is everybody in Detroit a leader of a Macedonian organisation? If a large number of the Macedonians in Detroit like listening to foreign music and songs at their functions, it is a pitiful fact. Thank god it isn't anywhere near that in Australia.

Are you from Detroit?

[Pelister]

Originally Posted by Risto the Great

Seriously guys. Why the anger with supporters of UMD. They are miniscule and so is UMD. The anger should be directed at the Government and their neutral stance on matters of such importance to Macedonians.

It should be directed at the government as you say, but UMD are speaking to our leaders, and leaders of government and I don't want them saying we are prepared to change our name, or that we are prepared to accept FYROM as a temporary name until a solution with Greece is found, or something along those lines. If the UMD position is that the negotiations are essential and the Interim Accord must be defended - what kind of compromises have they secretly negotiated in their boardroom, and what kind of representations are they making to political leaders? If UMD have said it themselves that it is important to say one thing, but really think something else, just what kind of lies are they telling the rest of us?

[Risto the Great]

Pelister, I think the UMD would have to clearly state their membership numbers if they were going to suggest what kind of voice they in fact have. The reality is that many Macedonian Diaspora organisations are stating their opinions on matters of concern to the Macedonian government. As an example, Aleksandrov represents something closer to over a hundred thousand more Macedonians than the UMD does. This is all about perspective.

[Pelister]

Originally Posted by Risto the Great

Pelister, I think the UMD would have to clearly state their membership numbers if they were going to suggest what kind of voice they in fact have. The reality is that many Macedonian Diaspora organisations are stating their opinions on matters of concern to the Macedonian government. As an example, Aleksandrov represents something closer to over a hundred thousand more Macedonians than the UMD does. This is all about perspective.

It would benefit us greatly if Alexandrov was telling the Macedonian government what the Macedonians that are with him, want and what they don't want. It was your idea that the Macedonian government needed to be steered, and that is what needs to happen.

My point about UMD is that for a small organization, UMD have shown to have alot of political clout - or look like they have. Its how they have represented themselves. There is something very top-down about UMD, a kind of meta-structure ...etc, but they are talking to our top brass all the time...so what they have to say, or not to say concerns me I suppose.

[osiris]

pelister if i know alexandrov i can assure you he is not shy in expressing his opinions and the sentiments of the people he represents.

[slovenec zrinski]

Uzhichko kolo...to my knowledge iz Serbian and not a stolen Macedonian dance. Not the brightest thing to chose to dance to if you represent macedonians.
It is probably the most popular serbian dance in Ex-yu. Popular in every country, even Slovenia.

[Phoenix]

Originally Posted by slovenec zrinski

You are in truth a very nasty and vile person Phoenix. You are probably the most unkind and blackhearted person I have come across on the internet, ever...


Anyway...back on track...anyone know what dance it was?

Spolaj Ti slovenec...

[slovenec zrinski]

Nice to see my own forum stalker back

[Volk]

aleksandrov, how do you suggest Macedonia rid itself from the framework agreement without destabilization or even war?

Or is this necessary?

[Bill77]

Originally Posted by Volk

aleksandrov, how do you suggest Macedonia rid itself from the framework agreement without destabilization or even war?

Or is this necessary?

A very good question volk. To start with, lets learn from mistakes and never get in these sort of positions again such as entering negotiations and getting bullied. Sadly, we have not learned a thing and we are getting our selves in to deep.