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View Poll Results: Do you consider the UMD as your representative for the Macedonian Diaspora?
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Old 02-18-2010, 02:04 AM   #2501
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I don't know about that, media spin on an issue that only the Macedonian community cares about is unsustainable anyway and just wont have that much of a far-reaching effect.

It's behind the scenes where the opportunity lies, and where it most definitely is not being wasted.
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Old 02-18-2010, 02:05 AM   #2502
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At least MP_MK is, as it seems, doing something other than go to war on the net. Even just one tiny article in one tiny local paper is better than spending 24h a day bitching on the internet about how others should work for Macedonia...
THANK YOU! It is good to know that there are still reasonable people here on the forum!
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Old 02-18-2010, 02:07 AM   #2503
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I don't know about that, media spin on an issue that only the Macedonian community cares about is unsustainable anyway and just wont have that much of a far-reaching effect.

It's behind the scenes where the opportunity lies, and where it most definitely is not being wasted.
I am sure the opposition and the voter base care very much whether their premier's are accused of racism, and inciting racial hatred... The strongest force you can have behind you are the voters.
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Old 02-18-2010, 02:09 AM   #2504
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MP, we still don't know who you supposedly represent (if anyone) or who supposedly supports you (again, if anyone).

You've made some sweeping claims on this forum, yet you havn't managed to deliver anything extraordinary. Now you're making claims that some unnamed Greek MP is leading an "international campaign" on something. I suppose you're here to save the day again?
So instead of contributing to the Rann campaign, or investigating this Greek movement you would rather bitch about UMD and attack MP for doing something, what a miserable person you are...
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Old 02-18-2010, 02:11 AM   #2505
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POLITICS 101:

If you want something to become a debate in politics- media and public outcry are your best friends.

Can I ask if you aware of the legal campaign on Rann? Do you think this campaign on Rann will bring the name recognition into the spotlight?

I assure you if there was a public out cry and the Macedonian Diaspora within Australia were networked correctly and on standby to act on command, then this would have blown out into the media. The opposition party would have not hesitated to use the mass outcry to their advantage, they would have moved quickly to secure the Macedonian vote and bring Rann to answer.

This is feedback I have received directly from the opposition and a number of Chief Producers on tv stations. The lack of Macedonian outcry and care on the matter is what makes it a non-event.

I assure you the name recognition would have been dragged into the spoptlight, if there was an out cry.

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Old 02-18-2010, 02:12 AM   #2506
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And Rogi: I understand you know politics, the lesson above was not directed at you, simply feedback I received first hand.
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Old 02-18-2010, 02:30 AM   #2507
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Prolet,

Judging from MP's 'extraordinary intellectual prowess', 'demonstrated experience' and 'connections in the media and Macedonia', I'm sure he's already devised a cunning grand strategy to have Australia recognise Macedonia. Further, I'm sure he's also got the support of ALL the Australian Macedonian organisations for whatever he has cooked up. All we have to do is sit back and watch it unravel.
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Old 02-18-2010, 02:32 AM   #2508
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So instead of contributing to the Rann campaign, or investigating this Greek movement you would rather bitch about UMD and attack MP for doing something, what a miserable person you are...
Bucktop, until Danger Man reveals who this unnamed Greek MP is or the details of this "international campaign", I'm afraid our ability to "investigate" is limited, so we'll have to let him save the day.
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Prolet,

Judging from MP's 'extraordinary intellectual prowess', 'demonstrated experience' and 'connections in the media and Macedonia', I'm sure he's already devised a cunning grand strategy to have Australia recognise Macedonia. Further, I'm sure he's also got the support of ALL the Australian Macedonian organisations for whatever he has cooked up. All we have to do is sit back and watch it unravel.


Well that shouldn't be hard for you Vangelovski! You have proven your ability to sit back and watch.
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Old 02-18-2010, 02:33 AM   #2510
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Vangelovski, I asked for your opinion dont pass the ball to MP for this one. Im sure you have your own opinion and i would like to hear it.
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