United Macedonia Diaspora

[Soldier of Macedon]

Originally Posted by amitreski

However, it has come to our attention that they have asked the readers of their publication to call themselves Mace-Bulgarians or something to that effect.

You have to be kidding me!!

Didn't you guys have this point already clarified prior to having them involved?

[Risto the Great]

You missed this one SoM?
Frightening stuff in my opinion.

[Vangelovski]

Originally Posted by amitreski

This is just another attempt to discredit UMD. UMD has in no way supported the UCK, and other gibberish said in this thread.

In recent months, Albanians had an uproar over the Macedonian Encyclopaedia and disputed a number of articles that suggested Albanians arrived in Macedonia during the 16th century, that the US supported NLA forces and that Ali Ahmeti may be guilty of war crimes.

UMD’s response to this was as follows:

“We understand the frustrations that ethnic Albanians feel regarding the mistakes contained within the Macedonian Encyclopedia. However, we remind everyone and Mr. Krasniqi that MANU is reviewing and has promised to correct these mistakes, with input from well-regarded Albanian-Macedonian academics,” said UMD Director of Public Policy, Boban Jovanovski”.

UMD Media Release
24 September 2009
http://umdiaspora.org/content/view/432/1/

[Risto the Great]

“We understand the frustrations that some ethnic Albanians feel regarding what they believe to be mistakes contained within the Macedonian Encyclopedia. We look forward to reviewing their alternate theories."

Simple really.

[aleksandrov]

Originally Posted by amitreski

This is just another attempt to discredit UMD. UMD has in no way supported the UCK, and other gibberish said in this thread.

Mitreski,

Your incessant attempts to misconstrue the purpose and meaning of anything that appears like criticism of UMD policy, in order to evade accountability, is doing the UMD no service.

The question in this pole is very clear and the thread-starting text is UMD's own public statement, published on the UMD website.

Are you able to answer the question or not?

DOES THE ABOVE PUBLIC STATEMENT BY THE UMD (call it gibberish if you like) AMOUNT TO SUPPORT FOR THE OHRID FRAMEWORK AGREEMENT?

[Rogi]

I just want to summarise, because it is becoming a little confusing. So what we have is...

1. UMD does not support any name change whatsoever.

2. The President and public figure of UMD has reaffirmed support for a name change to 'Democratic'.

3. UMD's President defines a name change as a change in Macedonia's Constitution, not the name used in the United Nations*


These statements are creating a lot of confusion, albeit not to those who are not so naive.


* In the video of the Adelaide forum, Meto is recorded as saying that 'Democratic' may be acceptable for the EU, NATO and United Nations 'only' (definition of name change).


I have been saying for nearly 2 years now that the way a name change will eventually be 'sold' to the Macedonian people is by 'selling' it as a replacement of 'fYROM' and not as a name change (because the Constitutional name won't change).

This play on the definition of what a name change really means, is but a trick and a way to dupe the Macedonian people into remaining subservient and apathetic.

[aleksandrov]

Originally Posted by Buktop

In terms of support for EU/NATO, and Military cooperation, ties with the USA do hold some benefits. I would not advocate an all out alliance or subservience to US foreign policy, but certain aspects are beneficial.

That doesn't answer the question of why UMD feels the need to repeatedly preach to Macedonians that the US is their best friend, if (according to you) perceived American patronage doesn't mean anything to the bulk of the Macedonian people and cannot influence their decisions about crucial domestic affairs.

[aleksandrov]

Originally Posted by amitreski

The actual people responsible were greeted like heroes in Australia as far as I can remember.

What exactly can you 'remember'?

[aleksandrov]

Originally Posted by Vangelovski

In recent months, Albanians had an uproar over the Macedonian Encyclopaedia and disputed a number of articles that suggested Albanians arrived in Macedonia during the 16th century, that the US supported NLA forces and that Ali Ahmeti may be guilty of war crimes.

UMD’s response to this was as follows:

“We understand the frustrations that ethnic Albanians feel regarding the mistakes contained within the Macedonian Encyclopedia. However, we remind everyone and Mr. Krasniqi that MANU is reviewing and has promised to correct these mistakes, with input from well-regarded Albanian-Macedonian academics,” said UMD Director of Public Policy, Boban Jovanovski”.

UMD Media Release
24 September 2009
http://umdiaspora.org/content/view/432/1/

That looks like something that might have been drafted by US State Department bureaucrats.

[Bratot]

Ova e za sramota!

“We understand the frustrations that ethnic Albanians feel regarding the mistakes contained within the Macedonian Encyclopedia. However, we remind everyone and Mr. Krasniqi that MANU is reviewing and has promised to correct these mistakes, with input from well-regarded Albanian-Macedonian academics,” said UMD Director of Public Policy, Boban Jovanovski”.