United Macedonia Diaspora

[amitreski]

What i am upset with it your total biased ani-UMD sentiment here.

Case in point, in this thread http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum...t=2423&page=12 the topic is human rights luncheon. And instead of people talking about the Human Rights event and saluting the effort, you people went right down to bashing umd, constitutionalism, etc.

I really think that there is almost no point to discuss issues here. You guys are determined to bash UMD no matter what the topic is. The administrators should ask themselves if "едноумие" is the right mentality to have on a forum.

[Buktop]

Originally Posted by amitreski

This is just another attempt to discredit UMD. UMD has in no way supported the UCK, and other gibberish said in this thread.

Well it seems they need someone to blame, since they won't blame the actual people responsible.

[Risto the Great]

The Macedonian Community of Adelaide and South Australia cannot be trusted to do an appropriate job. The appropriate time was 2 months ago and they failed. MP_MK, if you feel you are somehow driving this process, then to suggest:

Originally Posted by MP_MK

I was not responsible for that media piece transpiring.

Then it all sounds a little cloak and dagger without much of a cloak.

This has been about point scoring so far. It would be nice to win the game and everyone knows the AMHRC is the favourite AND the most capable for this process.

[Bratot]

Originally Posted by amitreski

Tom

I do not recognize the person that was part of UMD for several years. UMD not only is against that acronym but we have tried to avoid it as much as we can.

In that recgard Denis was reflecting on what he thought was the reason why THE GOVERNMENT accept that acronym.

Go bark at the government for that shameful act not to UMD

Since UMD is not (under) the government what kind of obligation do you have in using the acronym?

We haven't seen UMD to renounce publicly or in the statute from the government decission.

I find your answer a bit immature.

[Serdarot]

the explanations (so far) by UMD representatives, specialy the "bark" part, are un-serious, even flaming and offensive.

bratko, using such terms are not what the Macedonian Diaspora needs...

if you don´t have the capacity to do your job, let someone else doing it, simply as that

btw, i do NOT bark, i byte, and if needed, i kick ass...

[Risto the Great]

Originally Posted by Buktop

If you watched the Adelaide video, Meto expressly states, it was his own personal opinion to be in favor of the Democratic prefix at the time, not the policy of UMD.

A colleague who went to the dinner with Meto after the Adelaide UMD event was told what Meto's personal opinion was and that it was precisely the opposite of what you state above. Namely, if it was up to him, the name would not be changed for anyone.

So this inconsistency is becoming more than a nuisance. Buktop, what do you have to say now? Please tell me I should ask him directly.

[Vangelovski]

Indeed, the appropriate time was two months ago. This still looks like an concerted effort to give UMD the limelight.

I will provide some updates and video footage of Meto's performance in Canberra last night shortly. Though, it was interesting to note that the Ambassador and the Consolate from WA were sitting at the head table providing "moral support" for Meto - or maybe they just hoped that we would be intimidated by their presence?. It was also interesting to note that they were much more uncomfortable with the questions posed over UMD's support for name changes and negotiations, defence of the FYROM terminology and the Framework Agreement than poor Meto.

[Soldier of Macedon]

Amitreski, as I have explained countless times in the past, not until relatively recently have I taken this approach with the UMD.

If you guys had some consistency and integrity (non-compromising on our identity) in your articles, statements, interviews, etc, I would still be supporting you in these issues. However, you don't have consistency, you have made questionable statements that I do not support, and you have indicated certain policies that, as a Macedonian, I cannot align with.

Niether the administrators or a handful of individuals are dictating to others the way things are with the UMD, your records speak for themselves, rest assured. You have become a tool (willingly) of whichever Macedonian government is in office, when your aim should be to represent the sentiments of the Diaspora.

99.99% of us do not want to be called 'democratic' Macedonians, not in the UN, EU or anywhere else, but you guys persist with it, in Adelaide Meto persisted with it. You are not representing the Macedonian Diaspora with such actions, so don't blame the people or administrators of this forum for your own failure to deliver what you initially promised - Representation of the Macedonian Diaspora.

Perhaps you guys lack "едноумие" and therefore lack consistency, or, perhaps, you guys aren't confident enough in your own ideology which sees you scrambling for answers everytime you are questioned on it.

[Risto the Great]

Originally Posted by Vangelovski

Indeed, the appropriate time was two months ago. This still looks like an concerted effort to give UMD the limelight.

No, I can't accept this. It is more the inaction and stupidity of my little community than anything that sinister!

Originally Posted by Vangelovski

It was also interesting to note that they were much more uncomfortable with the questions posed over UMD's support for name changes and negotiations, defence of the FYROM terminology and the Framework Agreement than poor Meto.

Which tells me that the Diaspora must keep all of them honest. And an organisation representing the Diaspora must be transparent and single minded in its goals.

I look forward to any further information about the Ambassador/Consolate/UMD interaction.

[Risto the Great]

How did we go Amitreski? Did the MPO prove themselves to be the Bulgar loving waste of timers that we knew they were? Have you read the "publication" yet?