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Old 02-08-2010, 06:36 AM   #2161
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Makedontsi pak sa yadate za nishto.

moite mudina sa pogolemi ot tfoite

Makedontsi vo Australia sa nai patrioti ama nai budali sa.

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Old 02-08-2010, 06:51 AM   #2162
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Thanks guys, now I understand the rationale. It's not about the prefix / suffix, it's about drawing a line in the sand and saying enough is enough. It works for me.

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Old 02-08-2010, 07:08 AM   #2163
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Jas som ot Australia
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Old 02-08-2010, 07:11 AM   #2164
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gore...... shto drugo imash da se pofalish?????
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Old 02-08-2010, 07:15 AM   #2165
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gore...... shto drugo imash da se pofalish?????
Koi sa fale??
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Old 02-08-2010, 07:22 AM   #2166
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Koi sa fale??
dali imash neshto drugo da kazish? nie se raspravame, dali vikame mnogu i te razbudivne shto vleguvash naluten i vikash deka budali sne.

Do you have anything constructive or explain why you think budali sne i mislime deka golemi madlaci imame.
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Old 02-08-2010, 08:34 AM   #2167
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United states policy is primarily shaped by the president, initiatives are made on his say so. He has a board of advisers, but ultimately he has the final say as to what direction his government takes.
You are implying that Obama has more executive control over the US administration than Meto has over the UMD, but the facts simply don't support such an assertion. You are implying that what Meto says himself (as the president) does not equate to the policy of the UMD. You don't honestly believe that, do you? You don't find anything wrong with that picture?
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I personally do not support a name change, and I agreed with you that the idea was not something that I could support either, I am still of that same opinion, but that is not to say that Meto cannot have his own opinion, and his own reasoning for reaching that opinion.
You are basically giving Meto a licence to say and do whatever he feels, and that the UMD should be immune from criticism as a result. The president of the UMD calls for a 'democratic' prefix, but this is not allowed to be tied into the official policy of the UMD, is that it? That doesn't strike you as odd? Can you tell me where integrity and consistency fit into all of this? Sorry mate, no way, I can't accept your suggestion. If Meto can't stop saying the wrong thing, then for the sake of his organisation he should either step down or shut up.

I think the earlier comparison I made with Obama and Biden is more than valid, you can't have a leader saying one thing and his organisation claiming another, and not be questioned about your integrity. Can you show me another example of something like this where the population or membership agree with what you are saying, namely, that they accept the president of their group makes statements that apparently contradict the group's policies and are not in synch with the population or membership? A few parallels would strengthen your argument somewhat.
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Old 02-08-2010, 08:37 AM   #2168
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Well Said Jankovska,

The people and the common soldiers who gave their lives, who were betrayed people like Boskoski,Trajkovski and Buckovski. They should be honored and respected
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Old 02-08-2010, 08:44 AM   #2169
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I say this in general, and in principle, and I'm sure all agree:

Anyone is entitled to their own personal opinion.

However, you must consider in what capacity any statement is made. Is it as a representative of an organisation, is it in the name of the organisation, is it at an event of and/or for the organisation, is it to people questioning the organisation, or is it in a personal private conversation.

Secondly, the personal opinion of the head does reflect back on the organisation itself in that, it beckons the question why an organisation would keep at its' head someone so diametrically opposed to its' policy, if indeed there is such a disparity. So any organisation is automatically implicated by the personal or otherwise statements and views of its' head.
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Old 02-08-2010, 08:48 AM   #2170
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Well said Maslinka.

I hope we're al wrong in assuming UMD has not made contact with AMHRC and is out to steal the limelight.
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