United Macedonia Diaspora - Page 210

Soldier of Macedon · 02-07-2010, 12:48 AM

UMDiaspora.org, Amitreski and co., do any of you care to address this concern? In the interest of the UMD's public perception, I certainly hope so.

Risto the Great · 02-07-2010, 03:07 AM

Part 1.
YouTube - MTO UMD 1

Part 2.
YouTube - MTO UMD 2

Vangelovski · 02-07-2010, 03:18 AM

RtG, Great stuff!!

There was a lot of excuse making and nonsense from Meto - it was quite difficult to follow.

I'm gonna have to listen to this a few more times, but I think Meto just reiterated his support for "Democratic Republic of Macedonia"!?!?!

RtG, is that how you interpreted it? I'll reserve final judgement after I have heard Part Two...just some preliminary thoughts here.

Pavel · 02-07-2010, 04:14 AM

from that answer it looks like umd would have accepted ROM (Skopje) - the pejorative that grease likes the best.

Risto the Great · 02-07-2010, 05:46 AM

Part 2 is now up.

I will not comment on Meto's responses yet because I would like your opinions first.

But I will say that the Macedonian Community that hosted this event were pitiful in the moderation of the event. The attempts to quieten my dialogue was a slap in the face to all Macedonians with inquiring minds. Lets be clear, Meto was here to sell his product. If someone is selling to me, I would like to know what I am buying. The fact that I may have been understood by some as being disruptive is more a pitiful reflection on my local community's leaders than it is on me.

Vangelovski · 02-07-2010, 06:02 AM

Meto's ramble is fairly incoherent and difficult to follow - it again appears that he was defending his speculation over "Democratic Republic of Macedonia" as the "best choice under those circumstances".

RtG - You were shut right down by Ordan (I think its him standing next to Meto) who in order to allow Meto to avoid responding to the answer you gave him, opened the floor to other questions. This is appalling.

Risto the Great · 02-07-2010, 06:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vangelovski

RtG - You were shut right down by Ordan (I think its him standing next to Meto) who in order to allow Meto to avoid responding to the answer you gave him, opened the floor to other questions. This is appalling.

No, it was Steve Kostoff who did that (he was standing beside Meto).

julie · 02-07-2010, 06:14 AM

I agree with RTG, unfortunately it was disappointing that it was not moderated appropriately. I was also silenced.
I asked Meto if the term diaspora is voice of the people, as I am one people that does not agree with negotiations , which should cease. That negotiations are indicative of compromise, that is how our flag has been changed, and that our name should not be compromised with any prefixes. I found Meto intimidating in his response and chose to leave the premise, he "spoke" to me by pointing his finger at me repeatedly in front of the audience.

Pavel · 02-07-2010, 06:14 AM

meto koloski "thanks to organisations like umd, the united states recoginises the republic of macedonia". wow, delusions of grandeur or what. the balls on the clown to make such a stupid claim. the US recogised ROM just around the same time umd was formed, there is no way umd had any part in that. if people look at the US complex in skopje, 15 stories underground etc. which signalled a major shift from running things from grease, then it we can see truly why the US recognised ROM. DELUSIONS OF GRANDEUER

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Vangelovski · 02-07-2010, 06:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Risto the Great

No, it was Steve Kostoff who did that (he was standing beside Meto).

My apologies Ordan.

So, Steve Kostoff, the one who calls us "Slav Macedonians" is now Meto's righthand man.

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02-07-2010, 12:48 AM	#2091
Soldier of Macedon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Macedonian Outpost Posts: 13,660	UMDiaspora.org, Amitreski and co., do any of you care to address this concern? In the interest of the UMD's public perception, I certainly hope so. __________________ In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

02-07-2010, 03:07 AM	#2092
Risto the Great Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Macedonian Colony of Australia Posts: 15,640	Part 1. YouTube - MTO UMD 1 Part 2. YouTube - MTO UMD 2 __________________ Risto the Great MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA "Holding my breath for the revolution." Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

02-07-2010, 03:18 AM	#2093
Vangelovski Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 8,520	RtG, Great stuff!! There was a lot of excuse making and nonsense from Meto - it was quite difficult to follow. I'm gonna have to listen to this a few more times, but I think Meto just reiterated his support for "Democratic Republic of Macedonia"!?!?! RtG, is that how you interpreted it? I'll reserve final judgement after I have heard Part Two...just some preliminary thoughts here. __________________ If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14 The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John Adams Last edited by Vangelovski; 02-07-2010 at 03:23 AM.

02-07-2010, 04:14 AM	#2094
Pavel Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 155	Skopiani from that answer it looks like umd would have accepted ROM (Skopje) - the pejorative that grease likes the best.

02-07-2010, 05:46 AM	#2095
Risto the Great Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Macedonian Colony of Australia Posts: 15,640	Part 2 is now up. I will not comment on Meto's responses yet because I would like your opinions first. But I will say that the Macedonian Community that hosted this event were pitiful in the moderation of the event. The attempts to quieten my dialogue was a slap in the face to all Macedonians with inquiring minds. Lets be clear, Meto was here to sell his product. If someone is selling to me, I would like to know what I am buying. The fact that I may have been understood by some as being disruptive is more a pitiful reflection on my local community's leaders than it is on me. __________________ Risto the Great MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA "Holding my breath for the revolution." Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

02-07-2010, 06:02 AM	#2096
Vangelovski Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 8,520	Meto's ramble is fairly incoherent and difficult to follow - it again appears that he was defending his speculation over "Democratic Republic of Macedonia" as the "best choice under those circumstances". RtG - You were shut right down by Ordan (I think its him standing next to Meto) who in order to allow Meto to avoid responding to the answer you gave him, opened the floor to other questions. This is appalling. __________________ If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14 The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John Adams

02-07-2010, 06:14 AM	#2098
julie Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: makedonska colonia Posts: 3,869	I agree with RTG, unfortunately it was disappointing that it was not moderated appropriately. I was also silenced. I asked Meto if the term diaspora is voice of the people, as I am one people that does not agree with negotiations , which should cease. That negotiations are indicative of compromise, that is how our flag has been changed, and that our name should not be compromised with any prefixes. I found Meto intimidating in his response and chose to leave the premise, he "spoke" to me by pointing his finger at me repeatedly in front of the audience.

02-07-2010, 06:14 AM	#2099
Pavel Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 155	delusions of grandeur meto koloski "thanks to organisations like umd, the united states recoginises the republic of macedonia". wow, delusions of grandeur or what. the balls on the clown to make such a stupid claim. the US recogised ROM just around the same time umd was formed, there is no way umd had any part in that. if people look at the US complex in skopje, 15 stories underground etc. which signalled a major shift from running things from grease, then it we can see truly why the US recognised ROM. DELUSIONS OF GRANDEUER .

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