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Old 01-31-2010, 03:08 AM   #1911
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the “common values” of the NATO members seem to be at odds with the “human rights” and “sovereignty” of the Republic of Macedonia, thereby challenging the very concept of “democracy” leaving one to ponder who’s “rule of law” are we working to and at what cost is this “integration” to the “common values” of the Macedonian’s?
I like it.

I fear the UMD places political correctness far ahead of the will of the Diaspora. For this reason I feel they are "correcting themselves" into insignificance.
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Old 01-31-2010, 03:40 AM   #1912
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Excellent Report Phoenix

Macedonia should always look after its interests not go in head first to please the others.

We need to continue to train in Krivolak which is up there with the very best in the world and at the same time our army should be equipped properly too. Keep in mind that in Turkey we have war planes and in Croatia we have a joint factory for producing tanks together with the Croats.
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Old 01-31-2010, 05:15 AM   #1913
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You have to wonder WHY these members have not gone under the guidance of Petrov's WMC.
They have huge amounts of energy, but it seems that all their work is a spent force.
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Old 01-31-2010, 06:19 AM   #1914
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Lets just see who exactly we're putting our faith into, to get us in NATO...

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Both U.S. Ambassador to NATO Ivo Daalder and President Obama have also been vocal supporters of NATO enlargement. NATO expansion has traditionally enjoyed strong bipartisan support in the United States, and the Obama Administration should rally congressional support for NATO's Open Door Policy, specifically pushing for the accession of Macedonia in time for the 2010 Lisbon Summit at the end of the year. Ambassador Daalder should also use the U.S.'s diplomatic channels in Europe, in concert with his colleagues in Athens, to increase international pressure on Greece to resolve this matter expeditiously.
NATO’s collaboration with the KLA nonetheless grew in preparation for the war. Ivo H. Daalder and Michael E. O’Hanlon write in their account of US Kosovo policy, that in order to defeat Serbia, or at least Milosevic:

“...a reasonable degree of KLA/NATO coordination was only sensible ... Using intermediaries such as the Albanian military, and possibly working through the CIA rather than direct military channels, the alliance knew what the KLA’s general patterns of operations were by war’s end” (Daadler and O’Hanlon, 2000, p. 152)

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Old 01-31-2010, 06:24 AM   #1915
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I like it.

I fear the UMD places political correctness far ahead of the will of the Diaspora. For this reason I feel they are "correcting themselves" into insignificance.
What UMD is doing isn't even political correctness, its simple vassal politics.
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Old 01-31-2010, 09:01 AM   #1916
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Maybe you should send your family to fight all over the world for american and jewish interests, I will not support it nor will I feel sorry for those casualties.
Nor will I send my family to fight against our brethren in Russia when NATO will feel it's necessary.
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ZAS, are you involved with the WMC?
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Nor will I send my family to fight against our brethren in Russia when NATO will feel it's necessary.
Komita, I am yet to see one single thing indicating any relationship with Russia whatsoever. To call them brethren is optimistic.
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What UMD is doing isn't even political correctness, its simple vassal politics.
Point taken. Truth be told, we have no idea what the UMD is prepared to concede for this kind of protection. Maybe they should do another survey.

e.g.
Q: What should Macedonia be willing to give up in order to gain entry into NATO/EU?
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A Special Thanks to Voya for this clip

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