United Macedonia Diaspora

[Orovnichanec]

Vangelovski, it's great that you have a vast vocabulary, but cut the crap with the whole charlatan name calling.

Thanks

[Soldier of Macedon]

Originally Posted by TajnataKniga

i cannot open an account on maknews. ive requested it over two weeks ago.

you here really got a lot of time on your hands.

That's a shame, I am sure you would find it quite comfortable and like-minded there, once the administrator is done with his fantasies over Vaknin emails.

[Soldier of Macedon]

Originally Posted by Buktop

What MIGHT BE ACCEPTABLE.

This is a play on words and nothing more, "acceptable", "might be acceptable", to whom? To him? To the UMD as a whole? To the Macedonian Diaspora? Whatever - The fact is, the man clearly advocates a name other than (Republic of) Macedonia for the UN, EU and NATO. That cannot be disputed. Unfortunately, in Meto's case, it hasn't even been acknowledged, and a person who lacks this most basic of principles is not fit to represent the Macedonian Diaspora.

Buktop, you should defend the points that can be defended, and not defend all points just because they have been made from the side that you are supporting. Meto Koloski advocated a name-change for Macedonia in international organisations, bad choice of words, circumstances, I don't really care, he showed a lack of composure, intergrity and judgement, so he is being ridiculed for it. Good. I lost all sympathy when he refused to acknowledge what he did, and instead tried to re-interpret the interview several times (to no avail).

[Soldier of Macedon]

Originally Posted by TajnataKniga

.......why would they get so much support in australia, the us and canada from the macedonian people?

Support in Australia? You should stop believing your own garbage, support is definetly not what they have in Australia, and after Meto's public display of evasion here, he has not helped the UMD cause one bit.

[Buktop]

Originally Posted by Soldier of Macedon

This is a play on words and nothing more, "acceptable", "might be acceptable", to whom? To him? To the UMD as a whole? To the Macedonian Diaspora? Whatever - The fact is, the man clearly advocates a name other than (Republic of) Macedonia for the UN, EU and NATO. That cannot be disputed. Unfortunately, in Meto's case, it hasn't even been acknowledged, and a person who lacks this most basic of principles is not fit to represent the Macedonian Diaspora.

Buktop, you should defend the points that can be defended, and not defend all points just because they have been made from the side that you are supporting. Meto Koloski advocated a name-change for Macedonia in international organisations, bad choice of words, circumstances, I don't really care, he showed a lack of composure, intergrity and judgement, so he is being ridiculed for it. Good. I lost all sympathy when he refused to acknowledge what he did, and instead tried to re-interpret the interview several times (to no avail).

I cannot answer for his intentions on making the statement, all I can offer is a different interpretation of the meaning. Like I said, I wish these questions could be answered here but they haven't. That doesn't mean Meto is avoiding these questions. I am sure if you spoke to him, you would think quite differently.

My opinion about joining under the temporary name into the EU and NATO would be just that, temporary, until a sufficient number of countries had recognized Macedonia and we could comfortably overthrow the ruling at the UN. This would mean we wouldn't have to wait for the economic benefits until we actually managed to win the vote at the UN. What troubles me now are the countries that have recognized Macedonia bi-laterally, particularly the member countries of the EU, I don't know where their support would lie if they were called to a vote.

[Vangelovski]

Originally Posted by Buktop

I cannot answer for his intentions on making the statement, all I can offer is a different interpretation of the meaning. Like I said, I wish these questions could be answered here but they haven't. That doesn't mean Meto is avoiding these questions. I am sure if you spoke to him, you would think quite differently.

My opinion about joining under the temporary name into the EU and NATO would be just that, temporary, until a sufficient number of countries had recognized Macedonia and we could comfortably overthrow the ruling at the UN. This would mean we wouldn't have to wait for the economic benefits until we actually managed to win the vote at the UN. What troubles me now are the countries that have recognized Macedonia bi-laterally, particularly the member countries of the EU, I don't know where their support would lie if they were called to a vote.

Charlatan

Your subservient vassal style of politics have failed miserably - 20 YEARS is not a "temporary" period of time. Nor have any of the capitulations surrounding your type of outlook been "temporary", rather, they are been gradually cemented into what you have referred to as "reality" - one that you have previously argued that we must now accept. For example, the use of the ventilator. Or is that another "temporary" measure in anticipation of the finalisation of your "grand strategy"?

[UMDiaspora.org]

http://www.ajc.org/site/apps/nlnet/content2.aspx?c=ijITI2PHKoG&b=2818289&content_id={ 64941042-9E89-4891-9EC3-0A70CEF24637}&notoc=1

AJC Outraged by Arson Attack on Crete Synagogue


January 17, 2009 -- New York -- AJC is outraged by this morning’s arson attack that severely damaged Etz Hayim, the only synagogue on the Greek island of Crete. It was the second arson attack on the historic building in ten days.

“Our hearts go out to the Greek Jewish community,” said AJC Executive Director David Harris. “To target such a house of worship not once, but twice, within days of each other requires a swift public response from all in Greece who believe in the principles of religious freedom and mutual respect.”

Today’s blaze severely damaged or destroyed Jewish ritual objects and religious books, as well as the synagogue’s roof. The earlier arson attack, on January 5, destroyed the synagogue’s library.

Nearly 90 percent of Greek Jewry was murdered by the Nazis in World War II. Greece’s Jewish population today is only 5,000. After the Nazis destroyed the Crete Jewish community in 1944, Etz Hayyim stood empty and neglected for decades. A restoration project commenced in 1996, and the synagogue was rededicated in 1999.

“We count on Greek Prime Minister Papandreou and his government to do everything possible to apprehend the arsonists and prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law,” said Harris. “The protection of all Jewish institutions in Greece must become a still higher priority in light of recent events. That attackers could strike the same target twice in ten days reveals the shortcomings of the security in place.”

AJC and the Greek Jewish community have had an association agreement for many years.

[Risto the Great]

Originally Posted by Buktop

My opinion about joining under the temporary name into the EU and NATO would be just that, temporary, until a sufficient number of countries had recognized Macedonia and we could comfortably overthrow the ruling at the UN. This would mean we wouldn't have to wait for the economic benefits until we actually managed to win the vote at the UN. What troubles me now are the countries that have recognized Macedonia bi-laterally, particularly the member countries of the EU, I don't know where their support would lie if they were called to a vote.

Yeah sorry Buktop.
My son taught me how to spell "fail" with a more dramatic effect ... here it is "PHAILE". Macedonia appears to have embraced your suggested strategy and has PHAILED to move forward with dignity and more importantly SOVEREIGNTY.

I can see why you are defensive of Meto. You agree with his strategy. Here we are saying we don't like it, you say "we can't be sure what he means". I think you knew what he meant all along, but you simply agreed with it.

Macedonians are allowed to have differing opinions, some are just better than others. Hopefully your opinion does not win support because I don't think Macedonia can afford to prostitute itself any further.

[Risto the Great]

“To target such a house of worship not once, but twice, within days of each other requires a swift public response from all in Greece who believe in the principles of religious freedom and mutual respect.”

I think I know all the people "in Greece who believe in the principles of religious freedom and mutual respect" .... he is a nice guy.

[makedonche]

Originally Posted by Risto the Great

I think I know all the people "in Greece who believe in the principles of religious freedom and mutual respect" .... he is a nice guy.

Yeah RTG I know him too - he's Albanian!