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Where does it state the portion of the Macedonians that they are representing? Are they specific about it? By saying they are representing the Macedonians in the diaspora, its a virtue they are referring to all Macedonians outside of RoM. Considering the way UMD is run, they should be representing the views of the UMD members and not the Macedonian diaspora in general!
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Is that our dear Mr Maknews channelling through the otherwise empty vassal that is the 'paper-man'...???Originally posted by TajnataKniga View Postoh you cant even grab on to meto's pinky finger for god's sake.
The language is so 'similar' to other Maknews throw aways like "you're not even fit to shine the boots of the UMD leaders" or as Maknews likes to refer to them..."the heavy lifters"...and other quaint terms...
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But they do claim this...Originally posted by TrueMacedonian View PostIt seems that Vangeloski's jock sniffer is back to help
But does it claim to represent ALL MACEDONIANS INDY? Does it use those exact words? No it doesn't. The flaming that comes out of your posts are typical to a person who can't stand it when they are wrong. Show me where it states that they represent ALL MACEDONIANS? Vangelovski just changed his position on this. Why can't you?
"Founded in 2004, United Macedonian Diaspora (UMD) is the leading international non-governmental organization addressing the interests and needs of Macedonians and Macedonian communities throughout the world. Headquartered in Washington, D.C., UMD has an office in Melbourne, Australia and Toronto, Canada and representatives in Paris, London, Brussels, Vienna, Kiev, St. Petersburg, and Stuttgart".
"...addressing the interests and needs of Macedonians and Macedonian communities throughout the world..." - thats as good as "all"Last edited by Phoenix; 01-15-2010, 04:18 AM.Comment
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Prolet who was defending the Albanians in 2001? Who gave them the power and the weapons? Was it not our 'great' friend America. where have you been? Were you still playing hide and seek?Originally posted by Prolet View PostComment
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Originally posted by TajnataKniga View Post
Two of these are not on the board (two I know off)Comment
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Originally posted by Jankovska View Post
Jankovska, Since 2001 two vladi changed and alot has happened, ofcourse i knew about it. However in the last 3 years our relations with USA have improved alot, even Serbia has improved relations and they got bombed.МАКЕДОНЕЦ си кога кавал ќе ти ја распара душата,зурла ќе ти го раскине срцето,кога секое влакно од кожата ќе ти се наежи кога ќе видиш шеснаесеткрако сонце,кога до коска ќе те заболи кога ќе слушнеш ПЈРМ,кога немаш ни за леб,а полн си во душата затоа што ја сакаш МАКЕДОНИЈА. МАКЕДОНИЈА во срце те носиме.Comment
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Improved relations? How? We were kissing their flag before and after the war even tho they fucked up our country and most of Jugoland. You talk about the Croats and Serbs and Slovenci and everyone but you never mention the biggest evil that was involved in that war, America. You may have forgotten who gave the weapons to the Albanians to killl my cousin and my friends but I haven't and I neever wil. So stop telling me how wonderfull they are. They will be great when their stay within American borders and stay out of our business. otherwise they are still doing damage to Macedonia. But people like you and maknews are so blinded by the American policy and so used to lick their arses that you will never be capable of seeing the truth.Originally posted by Prolet View PostComment
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Jankovska, Im sorry for your loss
Im talking about respecting everyone, provided we do so with dignity and self respect towards ourself, there is a difference you know.МАКЕДОНЕЦ си кога кавал ќе ти ја распара душата,зурла ќе ти го раскине срцето,кога секое влакно од кожата ќе ти се наежи кога ќе видиш шеснаесеткрако сонце,кога до коска ќе те заболи кога ќе слушнеш ПЈРМ,кога немаш ни за леб,а полн си во душата затоа што ја сакаш МАКЕДОНИЈА. МАКЕДОНИЈА во срце те носиме.Comment
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Originally posted by Prolet View Post
I have respect and always will for everyone who has respect for me, no matter where they come from and what God they believe in. However I will not waste time at all with the ones that have never shown respect for me or my country. It is a big difference you knowComment
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jankovska i am surprised how any one can consider the usa's various admisnistrations as friends od macedonia. i guess the dropping of nalpalm on egei villages was sending them hot kisses.Comment
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My goodness I guess there will always be a spin on things concerning this issue. Again does it specify that they represent ALL MACEDONIANS in those exact words like you people claim?????? NO IT DOES NOT. It's just a claim perpetrated by Vangelovski when he left the UMD. I wonder though since that decree was written in 2005 did Vangelovski object to the Mission statement then when he was still a board member? Or is this gonna be another "I can't show you these emails because it would be unethical" excuse?Originally posted by Warrior View PostSlayer Of The Modern "greek" Myth!!!Comment
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Where do they state that they represent ALL MACEDONIANS in those exact words??? Do you realize that you've been duped by Vangelovski to believe this. But considering that the mission statement was written in 2005 and he was still a board member as well as "the 11 Macedonians from Australia" ,since this is an important arguement to Vangelovski because he feels the "balance of power has shifted to Washington", I find it hardly makes sense to even challenge a claim the UMD never even made. I recommend you go back a few pages to see Vangelovski's reply when I asked him where he saw the claim he made up.Originally posted by Phoenix View PostSlayer Of The Modern "greek" Myth!!!Comment
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C'mon TM...
"...addressing the interests and needs of Macedonians and Macedonian communities throughout the world..."
That's a HUGE statement...Comment
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Indy look kid I don't like offending people (that's a lie actually sometimes I doOriginally posted by indigen View Post
) but your childish antics show that you not only cannot put up a valid arguement concerning the issue at hand but you tend to try and belittle the people who are "on the other side" if you will. This "guru" bullshit and the "hero worship" nonsense is nothing more than a lame ass attempt to defend a poor claim made by a disgruntled former employee.
The mission statement is now "deliberately ambiguos" yet Vangelovski was on the Board at the time this "ambiguos" mission statement was written. I suggest you ask him why he let them get away with this at that time.
Slayer Of The Modern "greek" Myth!!!Comment
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Phoenix wrote;
Phoenix the main question here is who started this claim where the UMD claims that they represent ALL MACEDONIANS? Read Vangelovski's response below and you tell me again where it states, again, that the UMD represents ALL MACEDONIANS like Vangelovski has claimed since 2008 when he left the UMD.C'mon TM...
"...addressing the interests and needs of Macedonians and Macedonian communities throughout the world..."
That's a HUGE statement...
Originally posted by Vangelovski View PostSlayer Of The Modern "greek" Myth!!!Comment
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