Outcry Over Ethnically Charged Death Case In Macedonia!

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  • Albo
    Member
    • May 2014
    • 304

    Outcry Over Ethnically Charged Death Case In Macedonia!

    Outcry Over Ethnically Charged Death Case In Macedonia

    Several thousand people have*demonstrated in Macedonia’s capital*to protest against a prosecutor’s decision to reduce the charges against an ethnic Macedonian man who slammed his car into a four-year old ethnic Albanian child in 2016.

    The protest took place outside the government building in Skopje on March 21, after the country’s justice minister resigned amid a public outcry over the ethnically-charged case.

    Almir Aliu died of his injuries shortly after being hit by a car in the ethnically mixed northern town of Kumanovo in June 2016, allegedly following an argument between his father and the car's driver.

    During the ongoing trial in which members of both families are being prosecuted for their alleged roles in the brawl, the Aliu family claimed that the death of the boy was a case of premeditated murder.

    The car's driver, Boban Ilic, insisted that he was the one being attacked and claimed he hit the child while trying to escape.

    Earlier this month, the prosecutor reduced the charges against him from "deliberate murder" to "serious traffic offense."

    The murder charge carries a maximum life sentence, while the traffic offense charge carries a potential sentence of up to 20 years.

    Outraged by the decision, several thousand protesters, mainly ethnic Albanians, gathered outside the government building to call for the resignations of the prosecutor and the judge involved in the case.

    The demonstrators chanted slogans such as "No justice, no peace." One of the banners read "Little Almir does not rest in peace."

    The rally comes after Bilen Saliji, the justice minister, said late on March 20 that he was resigning due to deteriorating public trust in the judiciary.

    Saliji comes from the ranks of the government's junior coalition partner, the ethnic Albanian Democratic Union for Integration (DUI).

    The European Union, which Macedonia hopes to join, has urged Skopje to reform its judicial system, which is believed to be controlled by the country's political elites, with corruption scandals and nepotism.

    Several thousand people have demonstrated in Macedonia’s capital to protest against a prosecutor’s decision to reduce the charges against an ethnic Macedonian man who slammed his car into a four-year old ethnic Albanian child in 2016.


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    Macedonia Minister Quits Amid Child’s Death Case Protests

    The prosecution’s decision to reduce the charges against the alleged killer of a four-year-old ethnic Albanian child sparked protests and the resignation of the Justice Minister.

    About 1,000 people, mostly ethnic Albanians, protested on Wednesday in front of the Macedonian government building in Skopje, outraged by the prosecution’s last minute decision to drop charges of premeditated murder against an ethnic Macedonian who slammed his car into a four-year old ethnic Albanian child in 2016.

    Boban Ilic killed four-year old Almir Aliu in the*ethnically charged incident in July 2016*at the general hospital in the ethnically mixed town of Kumanovo.

    Protesters in Skopje chanted “No Justice, No Peace” and “Justice for Almir”, and carried banners that showed a middle finger to the government and the judiciary.

    On Tuesday evening, Macedonia’s Justice Minister Bilen Saliji resigned over the controversial decision by the prosecution.

    Saliji, who comes from the ranks of the ethnic Albanian junior ruling party, the Democratic Union for Integration, DUI, said that was resigning for moral reasons.

    “The judiciary is independent and should stay that way, but I, as head of the Justice Ministry, feel a moral responsibility to resign because of the shaken trust [in the judiciary],” Saliji said.

    The incident erupted at the Kumanovo general hospital when, according to the prosecution, two families, one Albanian and one Macedonian, started to brawl amid an argument over who should see the doctor first.

    The brawl, which according to the prosecution continued in the hospital yard, ended with the death of four-year-old Almir Aliu.

    In hospital video footage released in July 2016, Ilic’s car was seen slamming into the boy and his parents, who were also injured.

    The prosecution initially charged Ilic with the premeditated murder of the child but at the last hearing at the Kumanovo court on March 15, it changed its mind and called for milder charges of “endangering property and people’s safety in traffic”.

    This prompted harsh public criticism and renewed protests by ethnic Albanians who suspected an ethnically motivated decision.

    During the ongoing trial in which members of both families being prosecuted for their alleged roles in starting the brawl, the Aliu family claimed that the death of their child was a clear case of premeditated murder.

    But Ilic’s defence insisted that he was the one being attacked and that he slammed into the family in panic while trying to escape.

    In May 2015, the town of Kumanovo where the incident took place, was*the scene of a bloody shootout*between Albanian militants and police that left 18 people dead, raising ethnic tensions in Macedonia.

    Kumanovo was also badly affected by the 2001 armed conflict between Macedonian security forces and ethnic Albanian insurgents, when it was close to the front line in the fighting.

    The prosecution’s decision to reduce the charges against the alleged killer of a four-year-old ethnic Albanian child sparked protests and the resignation of the Justice Minister.
  • Albo
    Member
    • May 2014
    • 304

    #2
    For those who haven't seen the footage of this "Traffic Accident" here it is... make your own decision as to weather this animal (who has a list of prior criminal activities)
    Should have been freed....

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    • Bill77
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2009
      • 4545

      #3
      Originally posted by Albo View Post
      For those who haven't seen the footage of this "Traffic Accident" here it is... make your own decision as to weather this animal (who has a list of prior criminal activities)
      Should have been freed....
      https://youtu.be/oXegcM11Tkk
      Could be worse. They could make him form a political party and then run the country.

      PS: Of course its terrible and im not making light of the sad situation of a child tragically loosing its life like that regardless if he/she is Albanian or Macedonian, which i dont understand the necessity of reporting the child's specific ethnicity.
      Last edited by Bill77; 03-21-2018, 06:08 PM.
      http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?p=120873#post120873

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      • Risto the Great
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2008
        • 15658

        #4
        Looks terrible. What was he fleeing?
        Risto the Great
        MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
        "Holding my breath for the revolution."

        Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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        • mklion
          Member
          • Jun 2014
          • 100

          #5
          Originally posted by Albo View Post
          For those who haven't seen the footage of this "Traffic Accident" here it is... make your own decision as to weather this animal (who has a list of prior criminal activities)
          Should have been freed....
          https://youtu.be/oXegcM11Tkk
          Why was the guy who jumped to the driver's side and pulled the driver out to beat him chasing the car in the first place ?

          What happened before that ?

          How do you immediately assume he is guilty ?

          How do you know he was not beat up stumbled to his car got in drove disoriented and slammed into the family ? While being chased by a group of Albanians who then opened the door and continued to beat on him?

          We're you present at the altercation ? How do you know what happened before the crash?

          In order to prosecute someone you have to convince a jury beyond a reasonable doubt of guilt.

          Why is this guy immediately guilty but the Albanians from Sopot innocent ? Or the Albanian suspects who killed the Macedonian kids on Easter ? Or the Albanians from diva naselba who killed 8 Macedonian security forces ?

          You seem extremely biased to me.

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          • mklion
            Member
            • Jun 2014
            • 100

            #6
            Originally posted by Risto the Great View Post
            Looks terrible. What was he fleeing?
            As per the report he got into a fight in the hospital with Albanians over who was to be seen next by the doctor.

            The fight escalated and ended up into a brawl outside

            I assume he tried to escape the situation and plowed into that family you see at the end of the video.

            He could have either deliberately hit them as the car directed right towards where they were or he could have been beaten stumbled into his car drove away disoriented and then hit them by accident or out of fear of being beaten to death and was just trying to escape a dangerous situation.

            Either way since Albo is extremely biased he automatically assumed since he was Macedonian he deliberately killed the 4 year old and made this determination even though he was not there and did not see what happened

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            • Albo
              Member
              • May 2014
              • 304

              #7
              This case have been all over the Albanian media..

              This animal went to his car after whatever altercation he may have had inside the hospital..

              Drives for 2 minutes ( could have hit other ppl if he was so "disoriented" ) but didn't... spots the family he had an issue with in the hospital and "Deliberately drives into them" makes no attempt to miss them AT ALLL...
              HIS INTENT WAS TO RUN THEM OVER!!

              THIS CAN'T BE CLASSIFIED AS A SIMPLE ROAD ACCIDENT...

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              • mklion
                Member
                • Jun 2014
                • 100

                #8
                Originally posted by Albo View Post
                This case have been all over the Albanian media..

                This animal went to his car after whatever altercation he may have had inside the hospital..

                Drives for 2 minutes ( could have hit other ppl if he was so "disoriented" ) but didn't... spots the family he had an issue with in the hospital and "Deliberately drives into them" makes no attempt to miss them AT ALLL...
                HIS INTENT WAS TO RUN THEM OVER!!

                THIS CAN'T BE CLASSIFIED AS A SIMPLE ROAD ACCIDENT...
                How do you know were you there? Or was this written that this is what happened since it was on Albanian media?

                Also what evidence does the public prosecution have to prosecute him and put him in jail other than the ending of the video ?

                Finally weren't you the one who is so adamant that the Macedonian judiciary should not prosecute people WITHOUT EVIDENCE? I thought this is what you want? Or only when the Albanians are comitting the crimes?

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                • Albo
                  Member
                  • May 2014
                  • 304

                  #9
                  The family lawyer, legal experts and protest organisers are all on this panel...
                  They answer many of your questions.. and more.. a must watch...

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                  • mklion
                    Member
                    • Jun 2014
                    • 100

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Albo View Post
                    The family lawyer, legal experts and protest organisers are all on this panel...
                    They answer many of your questions.. and more.. a must watch...

                    https://youtu.be/WnQy1-zPEmA


                    None of these people were there how to they know what happened? They know as much as you do which is nothing.

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                    • Bill77
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 4545

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Albo View Post

                      could have hit other ppl if he was so "disoriented"
                      You don't pick and choose when you are disoriented. Which what makes it a freak unfortunate Circumstance.
                      http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?p=120873#post120873

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                      • Pelagonija
                        Member
                        • Mar 2017
                        • 533

                        #12
                        Absolutely shocking footage..

                        Not sure why this event is being politicised.. too many unknowns, did he lose control? It's not like he went to a lake and tied up 5 kids and shot them in the back of the head!

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                        • mklion
                          Member
                          • Jun 2014
                          • 100

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Pelagonija View Post
                          Absolutely shocking footage..

                          Not sure why this event is being politicised.. too many unknowns, did he lose control? It's not like he went to a lake and tied up 5 kids and shot them in the back of the head!
                          Albo is upset because the victim was Albanian. If the roles were reversed he wouldn't care

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                          • Albo
                            Member
                            • May 2014
                            • 304

                            #14
                            Watch from 26:50.. details of incident.. make your own decision on what this guy would deserve if he was your child!

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                            • Risto the Great
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 15658

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Albo View Post
                              Watch from 26:50.. details of incident.. make your own decision on what this guy would deserve if he was your child!

                              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnQy...ature=youtu.be
                              Seriously, a whole bunch of opinions from Albanians? I am not sure how this strengthens any arguments. Nobody is saying this is a great result. But nothing is being proven either.
                              Risto the Great
                              MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
                              "Holding my breath for the revolution."

                              Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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