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  • Phoenix
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2008
    • 4671

    #31
    All you need to know about COVID-19...

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    • Carlin
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2011
      • 3332

      #32
      1) Macedonia orders closure of all borders, Skopje airport
      North Macedonia's government said that it has ordered the closure of all borders and Skopje International Airport as of March 17, aiming to contain the further spread of the coronavirus disease i


      Macedonia's government said that it has ordered the closure of all borders and Skopje International Airport as of March 17, aiming to contain the further spread of the coronavirus disease in the country.

      The government said in a statement on Monday that all of the country's borders with neighbouring countries must be closed at midnight the same day.

      The airport in Skopje is set to be closed within 48 hours, the statement reads.

      2) US, UK coronavirus strategies shifted following UK epidemiologists' ominous report
      A study by UK epidemiologists predicts that attempts to slow, or mitigate – rather than actively halt, or suppress – the novel coronavirus could overwhelm the number of intensive care hospital beds and lead to about 250,000 deaths in the UK and more than a million in the United States during the course of the current pandemic.


      A study by UK epidemiologists predicts that attempts to slow, or mitigate -- rather than actively halt, or suppress -- the novel coronavirus could overwhelm the number of intensive care hospital beds and lead to about 250,000 deaths in the UK and more than a million in the United States during the course of the current pandemic.

      The study, which has not been published in a peer-reviewed journal, was released on Monday by London's Imperial College COVID-19 Response Team, which says it is advising the UK government on its response strategy. The study says it used modeling that has informed the approach of the British government in recent weeks; on Monday, the government abruptly called on vulnerable and elderly Britons to isolate themselves for 12 weeks, and introduced a variety of social distancing and quarantine recommendations that days earlier seemed distant prospects. Also on Monday, President Donald Trump unveiled a 15-day plan to slow new infections in the United States, including more stringent recommendations about staying home and avoiding groups of 10 people or more, among other steps.

      3) Ontario (Canada) hospitals must be prepared for 'rapid change of circumstances' as COVID-19 worsens: Elliot
      Health Minister Christine Elliot says that the province needs to be “prepared for a rapid change of circumstances” in its hospitals as the COVID-19 outbreak worsens.


      Health Minister Christine Elliot says that the province needs to be “prepared for a rapid change of circumstances” in its hospitals as the COVID-19 outbreak worsens.

      Elliot made the comment during a one-on-one interview with CP24 on Tuesday; just hours after Premier Doug Ford declared a state of emergency and ordered the closure of bars, restaurants that don’t offer takeout and a host of other venues.

      “Our system is operating well right now but we do have a plan in place should the hospitals become very busy very quickly,” she said. “We have been fortunate so far that the vast majority of people who have tested positive have been able to be treated at home with self-isolation but we know we have to be prepared should that change and people require hospitalization and require ventilation equipment.”

      There have been 186 cases of COVID-19 confirmed in Ontario so far, including nine new cases that were added to the tally on Tuesday morning.

      Elliot said that the province has seen a “significant increase” in in the number of cases in recent days, proving that “further action” will be needed to “flatten the curve.”
      Last edited by Carlin; 03-17-2020, 12:40 PM.

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      • Carlin
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2011
        • 3332

        #33
        This is downright scary.

        Italy now has more than 31,000 confirmed cases
        From CNN's Nicola Ruotolo in Rome and Mia Alberti in London

        Italy announced 3,526 new cases of the novel coronavirus today, bringing the country's total to 31,506, according to Angelo Borreli, chief of the Italian Civil Protection Department.

        There were also 345 more deaths recorded today, bringing the total number of coronavirus deaths in Italy to 2,503, Borrelli said.

        Here's what else Borrelli said:

        192 more people recovered from the virus Tuesday.
        There are 1,108 people in isolation with light or no symptoms
        2,060 are in intensive care (10% of the cases)

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        • Risto the Great
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2008
          • 15658

          #34
          That's getting close to half of China's tally. Whatever Italy is doing, it's wrong.
          But hey, the canals in Venice are clean.
          Risto the Great
          MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
          "Holding my breath for the revolution."

          Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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          • Carlin
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2011
            • 3332

            #35
            I don't know. I wonder if others are doing better but Italy, Spain, France all three from first case to lockdown - average 6-8 weeks.

            I feel like Americans and Canadians are still not taking this seriously. Numbers have erupted in the U.S. just over the last couple of days.
            Last edited by Carlin; 03-17-2020, 05:33 PM.

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            • Gocka
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2012
              • 2306

              #36
              Originally posted by Carlin15 View Post

              I feel like Americans and Canadians are still not taking this seriously. Numbers have erupted in the U.S. just over the last couple of days.

              Here are my observations on why the further west you go it seems the response is slower and slower.

              -US, Canada, UK, Germany. The way of life in these countries is quite different to really most of the world. People and businesses are heavily leveraged and the cost of living is very high. Most people can't go more than a a paycheck or two without becoming completely broke. Governments in these countries realize this reality and are terrified to cause too much damage to the economy and have people out of a job for any period of time.

              -These countries are also very democratic so the decision making is very spread out and uncoordinated. No one wants to be told what to do essentially by any one authority. Normally decentralized power and decision making is a good thing. In a crisis like this its much like war, you want all the soldiers to listen to the general and march to the same tune.

              -Society in these generally very well developed and wealthy countries have never really dealt with a crisis of any sort let alone the total breakdown of all norms.

              -Governments realize that any actions they take to mitigate the health impact will have an opposite and equal reaction economically. There is the real possibility that economic breakdown will cause more chaos than the virus.

              I don't think its so much not taking the virus seriously as much as being stuck between a rock and a hard place, and having to choose between what type of disaster you want to initiate, health, or economic. Either one will have dire consequences and leaders will get blamed no matter what they do.

              The US is throwing everything including the kitchen sink at the economy knowing full well its going to fall off a cliff. They are avoiding doing anything drastic on the virus, which will in turn make the health crisis worse and in turn still make the economy fall off a cliff despite their efforts. On top of that they are printing money like mad, have already reduced interest rates to 0%, and are at the point where they are literally planning to just hand out money. This is all before the real downturn has started. When the worst of it comes around they won't have anything left to try. They also risk severe currency devaluation. In 08 all we had was banks becoming cash strapped because of risky investments leading to a housing devaluation which wiped out a lot of peoples paper wealth. We didn't shut down the economy for months on top of bankrupting the government and devaluing our currency.

              It could end up being the perfect storm that brings society to its knees.

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              • Stojacanec
                Member
                • Dec 2009
                • 809

                #37
                We will see what happens when winter sets in for the southern hemisphere and together with the north already a pandemic... Things will get worse before they get better.

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                • Carlin
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2011
                  • 3332

                  #38
                  1) Macedonia expected to declare 'state of emergency'.

                  2) All 50 of the US's Governors have declared emergencies in their states and now many are starting to activate their Air and Army National Guard to help deal with the growing coronavirus pandemic.

                  3) Italy

                  i) Coronavirus deaths are so high in Italy that some places have a waiting list for burials and funerals are happening with no family members there:


                  ii) Too many priests have died in Bergamo:
                  Too many priests have died in Bergamo, one of the worst-hit coronavirus hotspots in Italy, local Archbishop Francesco Beschi said Monday. "We are close to our flock also on social media but we, too, risk being carriers," he said. (ANSA)


                  iii) 2,629 medical professionals infected in Italy:


                  iv) Some countries too fatalistic - Di Maio:
                  Some countries are being too fatalistic on the coronavirus and endangering Italian citizens abroad, Foreign Minister Luigi Di Maio said Wednesday. (ANSA)


                  4) Coronavirus COVID-19 Global Cases Dashboard:
                  Last edited by Carlin; 03-18-2020, 07:42 AM.

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                  • Carlin
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2011
                    • 3332

                    #39
                    Stevo Pendarovski declares state of emergency.
                    Last edited by Carlin; 03-18-2020, 12:14 PM.

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                    • Carlin
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2011
                      • 3332

                      #40
                      Italy reported 4,207 jump in cases, biggest single-day rise

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                      • Stojacanec
                        Member
                        • Dec 2009
                        • 809

                        #41
                        Originally posted by nushevski77
                        I heard that the virus can't sustain it's self at 27 degrees Celsius
                        European temperatures in Italy, Germany, England and Spain for example seem to average around 23-25 degrees in the summer.

                        This is also an unknown what will happen with the virus in the warmer months.

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                        • Phoenix
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 4671

                          #42
                          Originally posted by nushevski77
                          I heard that the virus can't sustain it's self at 27 degrees Celsius
                          A healthy adult has a body temperature ranging between 36.5 to 37 degrees C...fever is considered to be 38+ degrees C (COVID-19 induces fever in the host as a means for the body to attack the virus and destroy it and as we've seen the body is not successful in all cases)...therefor it should not exist in the human body if it couldn't sustain itself at 27 degrees C...?

                          There's much conjecture regarding this temperature theory but it is mostly unproven and being treated with utmost caution based largely on the findings of researchers when comparing COVID-19 with other coronaviruses such as MERS-CoV and SARS which are quite 'happy' (transmittable) in hot dry climates like the Middle East.

                          The view was that this family of viruses couldn't cope with hot dry climates as it would breakdown the viruses protective coating in the absence of water/humidity...but apparently not so...

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                          • Phoenix
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 4671

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Carlin15 View Post
                            Italy reported 4,207 jump in cases, biggest single-day rise
                            As time goes on there will be large 'single-day rises' in cases - many due to increased testing as the testing regime becomes more accessible to an already freaked out population...

                            In nature, populations of anything (including viruses) grow exponentially for only a set period of time, they will ultimately be limited by resource availability...in this case, the virus will grow exponentially as it finds human hosts with each infected person spreading it to around 4(?) others but most of those infected hosts have a limited circle of contacts (thus the quarantine strategy) and the spreading becomes significantly reduced to perhaps 1.5 people...of those infected - some/many will have a strong natural immune response to the virus and remain largely asymptomatic or displaying very mild symptoms further limiting the virus to the 'resources' it requires...

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                            • Risto the Great
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 15658

                              #44
                              Meanwhile infected Chinese in the diaspora are taking drugs to reduce their body temperature and flying back to China to get free health care. Joyous.
                              Risto the Great
                              MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
                              "Holding my breath for the revolution."

                              Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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                              • Carlin
                                Senior Member
                                • Dec 2011
                                • 3332

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Risto the Great View Post
                                Meanwhile infected Chinese in the diaspora are taking drugs to reduce their body temperature and flying back to China to get free health care. Joyous.
                                How big is the Chinese community in Australia?

                                Are there a lot of Iranians? I'm just asking because there is a large Iranian (and Italian) community in Toronto, and there have been some cases reported of Iranian Canadians being confirmed with COVID-19 after "travel to Iran".




                                Check the Dates on the above two news stories: Feb 26 and Mar 5. These were essentially among the first COVID-19 cases in Canada.
                                Last edited by Carlin; 03-19-2020, 07:34 AM.

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