United Macedonia Diaspora

[Soldier of Macedon]

Originally Posted by Meto Koloski

Macedonia has always been home to Macedonians, Albanians, etc

What do you mean always? Albanians haven't "always" been in Macedonia, but perhaps the UMD believe they have, which is why you stated that you understand the frustrations that ethnic Albanians feel regarding some apparent 'mistakes' in the encyclopedia relating to their presence in Macedonia.

[UMDiaspora.org]

Originally Posted by Soldier of Macedon

What do you mean always? Albanians haven't "always" been in Macedonia, but perhaps the UMD believe they have, which is why you stated that you understand the frustrations that ethnic Albanians feel regarding some apparent 'mistakes' in the encyclopedia relating to their presence in Macedonia.

Maybe not in large numbers like today...but there has always been Albanians in the Republic of Macedonia.

[UMDiaspora.org]

It is funny that again everyone is turning everything into a UMD matter. Does anyone care about the Macedonian minority in Albania and the fact that they are excluded yet again on the official Albanian census?

[Makedonska_Kafana]

Meto, for once can you PLEASE LISTEN to what the Macedonian people in DIASPORA are telling you? Rather then trying to fight EVERY BATTLE focus on your strengths - organizing events and promoting our Macedonian culture.

Not even Macedonia 2025 would take on the world.

[Soldier of Macedon]

When it comes from a mouthpiece like the UMD we would rather address the matter elsewhere on another thread. This thread here is just to expose your hypocrisy, nothing more.

Maybe not in large numbers like today...but there has always been Albanians in the Republic of Macedonia.

Why did you write 'Krusevo' as the title of your post? The Republic of Macedonia didn't exist at that time, and what you said was Albanians have always been in Macedonia, not the Republic of Macedonia or the Krushevo Republic. Your lack of understanding where it concerns Macedonian history is well known, in any case.

[Soldier of Macedon]

Originally Posted by UMDiaspora.org

UMD Denounces Albanian Government Census Practices

The United Macedonian Diaspora (UMD) expressed its deep concern today over the decision of the Government of Albania to eliminate sections in its upcoming Census forms designated for declaring a person’s specific minority status. The original version of the draft Census form included selection options for all minorities in Albania, including Macedonians. Albania’s government agency responsible for the Census has removed these categories and, instead, has made available only the options of “Albanian” and “Other”.

UMD believes that this misconduct by the Government of Albania is just its most recent effort to deny Macedonian identifying citizens of Albania their basic human rights and, as such, to further assimilate them. UMD calls upon the Government of Albania to make every effort to respect the civil rights of their Macedonian and other minorities, and to abide by the principles outlined by the Framework Convention for the Protection of National Minorities, which it ratified in 1999. Furthermore, UMD calls upon the Government of Albania to cease all intimidation of students studying the Macedonian language (as well as their parents and teachers) in the Golo Brdo region (and elsewhere in Albania) and to offer access to Macedonian language instruction in the public school system. Finally, UMD asks Albania’s neighbors, as well as other countries with which Albania has relations, to hold Albania accountable for its mistreatment of the Macedonian minority in Albania.

Read full press release at: http://umdiaspora.org/content/view/503/1/

Can you cite a source where the Albanian government has stated their intention to do this? Here is what the clowns at Wikipedia have written:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Albania
As conducting a satisfactory census of ethnic minorities is one of the country's commitments to the European Union, the Albanian government intends to conduct an official census to clarify the ethnic composition of the population in 2012

Is that true? Go on, inform us, given that you are so fond of the EU.

[Vangelovski]

Originally Posted by UMDiaspora.org

Nobody is promoting the Framework Agreement.

In 1991, Macedonia's Parliament passed its constitution stating "Macedonia has been constituted as a national state of the Macedonian nation in which full civic equality and permanent co-living is secured to the Macedonian people and the Albanians, the Turks, the Vllachs, the Romas and the other nationalities living in the Republic of Macedonia."

Macedonia has always been home to Macedonians, Albanians, etc...and "Albanian" has always been on the Macedonian census. This is not something the Framework Agreement decided.

In addition, Albanians have always had full rights in Macedonia and always had the right to study Albanian in primary, secondary school, etc...

So how does UMD promote the Framework Agreement by stating an obvious that has been in existence since 1991? An obvious, which unfortunately is not the same for Macedonians in Albania.

Meto, Albanians did not have a statutory right to tertiary education in Albanian until the Framework Agreement. You specifically stated "University-level educaton" in your press release. This could only have been a reference to the Framework Agreement...unless you have your facts mixed up again?

As for "full civil rights", that's something Albanians enjoy as citizens of the Macedonian state, like any other citizen. Unless of course you were alluding to certain special collective rights that they have obtained through the Framework Agreement to show how tolerant Macedonia is of extremist paramilitary groups, what was your point in making that statement?

[UMDiaspora.org]

This is why having UMD around is so important: http://ahiworld.org/press_releases/2010_066.html

[UMDiaspora.org]

Originally Posted by Soldier of Macedon

Can you cite a source where the Albanian government has stated their intention to do this? Here is what the clowns at Wikipedia have written:

Is that true? Go on, inform us, given that you are so fond of the EU.

Here is your source:

http://www.sitel.com.mk/dnevnik/make...opisnite-listi

Plus, UMD is in contact with the representatives of the Macedonian minority in Albania who have confirmed this.

[Soldier of Macedon]

Originally Posted by UMDiaspora.org

This is why having UMD around is so important: http://ahiworld.org/press_releases/2010_066.html

Yeah, on some fronts useful, on most others useless.


Thanks for the Sitel source, next time post it in the first place.