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  • Phoenix
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2008
    • 4671

    #61
    Originally posted by kure View Post
    whats with the aussie infiriority complex on this forum always having to bash the americans?
    kure, don't be such a dick, you're getting all worked up for nothing, some would describe it as premature speculation, don't blow your top. American's love stroking their egos, any criticism is defended with the now familiar cry of penis envy...it might be hard for you to understand but be assured the Aussies aren't soft...

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    • sydney
      Member
      • Sep 2008
      • 390

      #62
      funny prick

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      • Bill77
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2009
        • 4545

        #63
        Originally posted by Phoenix View Post
        kure, don't be such a dick, you're getting all worked up for nothing, some would describe it as premature speculation, don't blow your top. American's love stroking their egos, any criticism is defended with the now familiar cry of penis envy...it might be hard for you to understand but be assured the Aussies aren't soft...
        careful on what you say phoenix..... Anything negative towards the US and you will be branded a terrorist or a threat to the US security. They might do a shock and oar on your house. Lol

        Anyway, why do people get so uptight. People can go ahead and bag australia and I will join them as if I would give a shit.
        http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?p=120873#post120873

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        • Phoenix
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2008
          • 4671

          #64
          Originally posted by Bill77 View Post
          careful on what you say phoenix..... Anything negative towards the US and you will be branded a terrorist or a threat to the US security. They might do a shock and oar on your house. Lol
          No chance Billy, those stupid bastards will bomb some poor bastard in Austria...

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          • Phoenix
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2008
            • 4671

            #65
            Originally posted by sydney View Post
            funny prick
            ...lol...good one cock

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            • fyrOM
              Banned
              • Feb 2010
              • 2180

              #66
              it doesnt matter if they hit austria. the usa wll just claim friendly fire. and that the war on terror is more important.

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              • julie
                Senior Member
                • May 2009
                • 3869

                #67
                "war on terror" what a paradox in justifying ones own tactics of terror, they are good at it, and not just in combat speak, but in strategies of destabilisation of countries
                "The moral revolution - the revolution of the mind, heart and soul of an enslaved people, is our greatest task."__________________Gotse Delchev

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                • kure
                  Junior Member
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 21

                  #68
                  australia, the poor man's usa. not to condone what the us has done or is currently doing, but don't act like australia, one of the us's biggest bitches, wouldn't be doing the same if it had a fraction of the political clout or "power" that the us has.

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                  • Bill77
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 4545

                    #69
                    Originally posted by kure View Post
                    australia, the poor man's usa. not to condone what the us has done or is currently doing, but don't act like australia, one of the us's biggest bitches, wouldn't be doing the same if it had a fraction of the political clout or "power" that the us has.
                    I don't know about the poor bit. Last time I heard was that us is in the shit financial where aussies can still eat caviar lol.

                    although I will agree aus is a US bitch and not only that but also a puppet that has the greek australians hands right up its arss
                    Last edited by Bill77; 06-10-2010, 05:10 PM.
                    http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?p=120873#post120873

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                    • Risto the Great
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 15658

                      #70
                      Originally posted by kure View Post
                      australia, the poor man's usa. not to condone what the us has done or is currently doing, but don't act like australia, one of the us's biggest bitches, wouldn't be doing the same if it had a fraction of the political clout or "power" that the us has.
                      Kure, I am proud to live in Austria. But I must admit, it is getting harder and harder every day.
                      Risto the Great
                      MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
                      "Holding my breath for the revolution."

                      Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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                      • Prolet
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 5241

                        #71
                        Originally posted by Risto the Great View Post
                        Kure, I am proud to live in Austria. But I must admit, it is getting harder and harder every day.
                        Risto, Which part of Austria do you live in?? I agree with the euro the prices are going up.
                        МАКЕДОНЕЦ си кога кавал ќе ти ја распара душата,зурла ќе ти го раскине срцето,кога секое влакно од кожата ќе ти се наежи кога ќе видиш шеснаесеткрако сонце,кога до коска ќе те заболи кога ќе слушнеш ПЈРМ,кога немаш ни за леб,а полн си во душата затоа што ја сакаш МАКЕДОНИЈА. МАКЕДОНИЈА во срце те носиме.

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                        • osiris
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 1969

                          #72
                          yes i have an apparently i am a german so now all the chest beating ancient masos on here cant tell me i have no right to be a macedonian,

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                          • iskra
                            Junior Member
                            • Jun 2010
                            • 59

                            #73
                            Originally posted by osiris View Post
                            yes i have an apparently i am a german so now all the chest beating ancient masos on here cant tell me i have no right to be a macedonian,
                            I was thinking you are from Egipet?

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                            • kure
                              Junior Member
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 21

                              #74
                              finally got my igenea results back for haplogroup, ancient tribe, and region of origin.

                              according to igenea, my haplogroup is i2a; "Haplogroup I2a is characterized by the genetic Marker P37.02, which appeared for the first time 15,000 years ago. It originated in the Balkans, where it is most widely distributed yet today.

                              Haplogroup I2a distinguishes itself from other tribes that sought in the Balkans a refuge from the ice sheet during the Ice Age. As one of the few original tribes, they survived the Ice Age and expanded into Romania, Poland, Bulgaria and Yugoslavia.

                              The hard environmental conditions during the Ice Age led to a drastic decrease of the human population and the genetic diversity of Europe."

                              my ancient tribe is thracian; "iGENEA has specialized in the genetic origins of Europeans and can now genetically define numerous historical antic peoples. By antic peoples, we refer here to people groups from Antiquity who are defined not only by their own language, culture and history but also by their own DNA-profile. What is important is not the common linguistic ancestry or the historical-anthropological categorization, but the individual genetic characteristics of a people.

                              Thanks to analysis of genetic material recovered from archeological and anthropological finds, the DNA of Celts, Germanic Tribes, Illyrians, Slavs, Vikings, Iberians, Scythians, Arabians, Berbers, Persians, Turkish Peoples, Finno-Ugric Peoples, Baltic Peoples, Huns, Gepids, Alans, Vandals, and many other people groups could be isolated. In cases, where the finds could not be clearly ascribed to a single culture, the DNA-profiles obtained were compared with the genetic material of people from a region recognized as belonging to the particular people group. This method made the identification of the Celtic profile, among others, possible.

                              Archeology uses objects that are found in graves. These objects make an attribution to a particular culture possible through inference. It only becomes problematic, when the remains that are found are those of people killed on the hunt or in the heat of battle, and thus no burial occurred. The Celts and Germanic Tribes shared certain areas, and for quite some time these finds could not be clearly identified. Thanks to comparisons of these genetic profiles with those of people from typically Celtic areas, in which the Gaelic languages are still spoken, the Celtic profile could be discovered. The “Germanic DNA” was then a by-product of this study, which arose by process of elimination.

                              Various studies demonstrate just how diverse our roots really are, how often and how far abroad our ancestors travelled. Even if our own parents came from the same rural village, it is likely, that they had different heritages. While we can differentiate between antic people groups, this does not establish any ‘races’ or genetically homogenous lineages. You may be Celtic in one lineage, but Germanic in the other. Every lineage has its origins, but our DNA arises from the confluence of numerous lineages.

                              Each person has to decide, how much he or she wants to know about his/her own ancestors. The racial theories of National Socialism and persecutions of various people groups in history have made ancestry and descent into a difficult topic. The impression could arise that such tests irrevocably identify people as members of certain groups and function thereby as a sort of Yellow Jew’s Star. It is also possible that the result could be that genetic research has exactly the opposite effect.

                              Maybe future, genetic tests are going to be able to identify several ancestral lineages, and not just one. Today, we have at our disposal test procedures that identify the mitochondrial DNA and Y-Chromosome. These tests can only recognize a few ancestral lines reaching back into the past. Soon, we will have tests which use genetic markers on the chromosomes to reveal the entire diversity of our ancestry. Geneticists may be able to demonstrate that a person has a fragment of Chromosome 21 from Jewish ancestors, a fragment of Chromosome 3 from African ancestors, and so on.

                              Our focus on European origins is all the more exciting, since the Old World provides us with a richness of historical sources greater than that on any other continent. Techniques now available in the science of genetics enable us to re-examine these sources and test their veracity. Our genes contain information about our ancestors which.

                              Our experiences to date have show, just how interconnected and various the inhabitants of Europe are, and how often the reigning orthodoxy concerning the origins of a nation has to be overturned."

                              finally, my region of origin is southeastern europe. i'll post more stuff when it becomes available.







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                              • TrueMacedonian
                                Senior Member
                                • Jan 2009
                                • 3810

                                #75
                                I wonder how accurate is this? And why isn't iGENEA in any scientific journals? If I am wrong about that then please provide the source. Otherwise I think too many people might be getting duped.
                                Slayer Of The Modern "greek" Myth!!!

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