United Macedonia Diaspora - Page 233

aleksandrov · 02-10-2010, 04:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buktop

American "recognition" means nothing to the average working class person in Macedonia, what means something to them is military and economic cooperation, FDI, aide. This is what is meant by "best friends".

Did you see the poll that TM posted where 60% of citizens don't know what the governments red line is? Or where 70% of citizens don't understand what Greece wants?

They don't care about international recognition, they care about quality of life.

Bucktop,

When UMD preaches that America is Macedonia's 'best friend' it always stresses the recognition of the Constitutional name. I didn't ask you about your personal opinion on whether and how the US is Macedonia's 'best friend', but why UMD chooses to engage in such preaching to the Macedonian public, especially in the diaspora, if not to influence the Macedonian people's acts or omissions? Does that amount to the UMD senselessly offending our intelligence or deceptively serving US global hegemonism at the expense of Macedonian sovereignty and effective resistance against Albanian racist separatism, occupation and ethnic cleansing of parts of Macedonia (and Kosovo)?

P.S. If America is truly our "best friend" in the context of military and economic cooperation, then why the scaremongering about the allegedly catastrophic consequences of not being admitted into NATO?

aleksandrov · 02-10-2010, 06:49 PM

Given that, despite the fact that the overwhelming majority of voters in this poll have understood the UMD statement in question as what it is, no UMD representative has joined in to claim otherwise, perhaps we should move forward with the question:

Does the UMD still hold the policy that it should encourage the Macedonian Government to continue with the implementation of the Ohrid Framework Agreement?

aleksandrov · 02-10-2010, 08:38 PM

To make my intentions clear, I should clarify that if the UMD were to now take a policy that denounces the Framework Agreement for the unjust and ultimately ruinous arrangement that it is, the organization will have my full support in that regard, and I am happy not to dwell on past errors, as long as they are not repeated.

Vangelovski · 02-10-2010, 08:52 PM

Can a member of the UMD Board of Directors please inform us of UMD's "official" opinion on the latest EU Parliamentary resolution on Macedonia adopted 10 February 2010?

Grotius · 02-10-2010, 09:38 PM

Vangelovski - good luck with that question!!

I have detected some confusion about what is "official" UMD opinion and what is not so "official".

Vangelovski · 02-10-2010, 10:22 PM

Same, that's why I'm asking for their OFFICIAL remarks.

The LION will ROAR · 02-11-2010, 06:58 AM

IS anyone going to the UMD meeting tommorrow in Sydney Ilinden Cultural Centre, Rockdale 12 Feb. at 6:30 p.m....?

The LION will ROAR · 02-11-2010, 07:02 AM

IS anyone from the group going to the UMD meeting tommorrow in Sydney Ilinden Cultural Centre, Rockdale 12 Feb. at 6:30 p.m....?

Prolet · 02-11-2010, 07:08 AM

Naa i cant make it to this one

The LION will ROAR · 02-11-2010, 07:22 AM

I might go and see what METO has to say...?
If anyone is going I'd love to meet up and have a drink.....or two...

View Poll Results: Do you consider the UMD as your representative for the Macedonian Diaspora?
Yes	2	4.35%
No	44	95.65%
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02-10-2010, 08:52 PM	#2324
Vangelovski Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 8,520	UMD's Opinion on the Latest EU Resolution Can a member of the UMD Board of Directors please inform us of UMD's "official" opinion on the latest EU Parliamentary resolution on Macedonia adopted 10 February 2010? __________________ If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14 The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John Adams

02-10-2010, 10:22 PM	#2326
Vangelovski Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 8,520	Same, that's why I'm asking for their OFFICIAL remarks. __________________ If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14 The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John Adams

02-11-2010, 06:58 AM	#2327
The LION will ROAR Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Australia, Sydney Posts: 3,231	IS anyone going to the UMD meeting tommorrow in Sydney Ilinden Cultural Centre, Rockdale 12 Feb. at 6:30 p.m....? __________________ The Macedonians originates it, the Bulgarians imitate it and the Greeks exploit it!

02-11-2010, 07:02 AM	#2328
The LION will ROAR Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Australia, Sydney Posts: 3,231	IS anyone from the group going to the UMD meeting tommorrow in Sydney Ilinden Cultural Centre, Rockdale 12 Feb. at 6:30 p.m....? __________________ The Macedonians originates it, the Bulgarians imitate it and the Greeks exploit it!

02-10-2010, 06:49 PM	#2322
aleksandrov Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 558	Given that, despite the fact that the overwhelming majority of voters in this poll have understood the UMD statement in question as what it is, no UMD representative has joined in to claim otherwise, perhaps we should move forward with the question: Does the UMD still hold the policy that it should encourage the Macedonian Government to continue with the implementation of the Ohrid Framework Agreement?

02-10-2010, 08:38 PM	#2323
aleksandrov Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 558	To make my intentions clear, I should clarify that if the UMD were to now take a policy that denounces the Framework Agreement for the unjust and ultimately ruinous arrangement that it is, the organization will have my full support in that regard, and I am happy not to dwell on past errors, as long as they are not repeated.

02-10-2010, 09:38 PM	#2325
Grotius Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 136	Vangelovski - good luck with that question!! I have detected some confusion about what is "official" UMD opinion and what is not so "official".

02-11-2010, 07:08 AM	#2329
Prolet Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 5,241	Naa i cant make it to this one

02-11-2010, 07:22 AM	#2330
The LION will ROAR Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Australia, Sydney Posts: 3,231	I might go and see what METO has to say...? If anyone is going I'd love to meet up and have a drink.....or two... __________________ The Macedonians originates it, the Bulgarians imitate it and the Greeks exploit it!

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