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View Poll Results: Do you consider the UMD as your representative for the Macedonian Diaspora?
Yes 2 4.35%
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Old 01-10-2010, 10:55 PM   #981
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Old 01-10-2010, 11:09 PM   #982
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What a silly survey! First they go ahead and support all the way the negotitations as late as Dec,2009 and are not gain enough to say that they were wrong, but instead use forums as an excuse to change policies. Its simple just say we were wrong and you would like to address the past mistakes, that is how UMD will become stronger. Same thing on the other issues where there has been massive stuff up to alienate a sizeable portion of the Macedonian Diaspora in Oz.
This is a typical American game, where the mistakes will be basically smudged or diverted from public view, so another policy can be created.
This seems that in the past the UMD members and forum participants supportd the negotiations, hence UMD stance in the past and now the diaspora members view has changed and hence UMD position for future policies. Ridicolous leadership!!!!
If things are not acknowledged from the past and new decisions are done based on surveys or polls, its becoming a flip flop organisation, without any substance.
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Old 01-11-2010, 01:27 AM   #983
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Is UMD still trying to cobble together a 'strategy' about the name negotiations, man that's seriously fucked up, after almost two (2) fuckin' decades of senseless banter at the UN, UMD are still trying to determine an appropriate response...you people are totally useless.
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Old 01-11-2010, 01:58 AM   #984
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Default UMD - Big On Egos, Small On Substance

It seems UMD is more concerned with clogging up the Forum with dated youtube clips and useless 'polls', than it is to revisit the controversial statements made by Meto.

I didn't notice the UMD 'poll' over at the Maknews Forum...or half the other shit thats been posted here...

Meto you play a very childish game...

All that we want is a clear UMD name strategy that doesn't compromise our identity...

Many people want to know why you entertained name change previously

Most people want UMD to officially denounce the interim accord and framework agreement

Tone down your shameless American arse kissing, what you choose to do in private has no place in the public arena
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Old 01-11-2010, 03:14 AM   #985
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No decent or honest Macedonian would like to see its name and identity changed. Even with all the sell outs in Macedonian politics these days they still wouldn’t even make up a single percent in the “continue with the talks” camp from the Macedonian people.

What a totally idiotic poll

I wonder wich person on this forum will be stupid enough to vote with the continued name talks and brave enough to face the rest of the macedonian people who DONT want a name change.
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Old 01-11-2010, 04:08 AM   #986
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The gov should terminate talks and the diaspora should support the gov. Not otherwise. As for the UMD or any other Diaspora org, they should all stand for one thing only, Macedonia.
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Old 01-11-2010, 04:18 AM   #987
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well, i dont know about the city but hit up ohrid in late july/early august and you're two thirds of the way there LOL

bill, i have been woooorkiiiiiiiing, i hate working. i need to win lotto and become a bludger. i keep getting promoted and having to put more hours in. sux ass.

my mum is from prilep and i have to say 50/50 on the crazy factor. i do agree that skopjani are fairly tame compared to bitolcani. they have no swagger, no game.
Yep Ohrigani are like non Macedonians. I don't like them and because of Ohrigani and the way the behave I don't go to Ohrid.
So this article is about places to visit in 2010, right? Who chooses them? How is it done? Because I don't see how a tourist would like to visit a place that is expensive, hard to pre book and you have to change at least two airplines to get there? I mean Australia has a direct line. I don't I am again the pessimist here ruining another good article but I think the more people address these issues the better of Macedonia will be.
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Old 01-11-2010, 04:29 AM   #988
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Well...Ivanov seems to think there is popular support in macedonia for your troops in afghanistan. Just hope they take part in non combatative role in that black hole of a country.
Who did he ask? He didn't ask me or most people I know who are against it. So he must be talking na grav
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Old 01-11-2010, 04:34 AM   #989
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What connections? We see that UMD asked MPO to help collect census data, do you really see any connection between UMD and a pro-Bulgarian agenda?

Is applauding troop deployments considered pro-USA agenda? or is it considered an acknowledgment of a beneficial policy for Macedonia?

The actions of UMD are aligned with the Diaspora, or at least the ones who have made an effort to work with UMD, to help develop UMD, to support UMD. What we are arguing about is wording in a newsletter.

Risto, have you ever had the pleasure of disagreeing with Vangelovski? You can only really know a person when you have seen them at their worst, and all I can say is when he is asked to provide proof of his accusations against UMD he avoids doing so. When I asked him 2 days ago to explain to us the "secret" agenda's of UMD he could not do so.

Either he does not have proof, or maybe there are snipers posted on his street waiting to take him out if he discloses such vital information.
If they this it should be done and we should send Macedonians to Afganistan to die why don't they go? Why send our brothers or cousins who went into the Army to defend their country not go and take lifes of innocent people. The war in Afganistan is wrong and agains all human laws and illegal. Why would I want Macedonia or Macedonian brave soldiers to be invloved in something like this? Ni go crni imeto.
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Old 01-11-2010, 05:02 AM   #990
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That video's title shows its in Melbourne - I'm not from Melbourne.

You seem to be running the same argument as Buktop re parliamentarians voting for the ventilator. Have a good think about it and ask yourself as to whether these parliamentarians even had any authority to even vote on something that was demanded by a foreign government. Think about what a constitution is and how it relates to the government. Think about where the government's authority comes from and to what extent it is legitimate for a government to act beyond the authority expressly provided to it.
So what if you aren't from Melbourne, you are from Australia. You have a say in the event's that take place in your country. Is Melbourne a separate country? Why did you not participate in the events portrayed in the video? Did you not care that Australian Macedonians were flying the "ventilator"?

In a republican government who votes for Parliamentarians? Why do they vote for Parliamentarians? What is the Parliament for? Come on now Vangelovski don't play dumb.

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