United Macedonia Diaspora - Page 661

Risto the Great · 11-28-2012, 08:07 PM

At least they are consistent in their contradictions.

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Originally Posted by UMD

UMD, a charitable organization, also has a policy that we do not
support/oppose political parties any where

I distinctly remember a moment where Meto said "the Macedonian Government wants it, we have to support them".

But while we are talking about contradictions, I note a recent press release from them denouncing some of these extreme Albanian aggressions. I also recall them celebrating the peaceful coexistence that has stemmed from the Framework Agreement once upon a time. None of it making sense to more rational people in my opinion.

TrueMacedonian · 11-28-2012, 08:12 PM

It seems that having Vinozhito around in 2007 and 2008 was ok for the UMD. I am positive there are more press releases hanging around from 2009 and 2010 about Vinozhito in the UMD archives.

Eugenia Natsoulidou's past remarks are all over the web. It is evident she is not only against Vinozhito but also puts them in a class of racists with the "Golden Dawn".

Quite un-remarkable are Meto's claims that these were "oversights". 4 changes are not oversights. They are intentional ways to avoid using the name "Vinozhito" so as not to upset Eugenia.

Phoenix · 11-28-2012, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by TrueMacedonian

Quite un-remarkable are Meto's claims that these were "oversights". 4 changes are not oversights. They are intentional ways to avoid using the name "Vinozhito" so as not to upset Eugenia.

I think you totally underestimate the pathetic incompetence of umd, their Board, Advisory Council, "worldwide" representatives and their "charitable" nature...

United MKD · 11-29-2012, 12:39 AM

How many screw ups/contradictions can one organisation have? So many hidden agendas. George Vlahov's last e-mail said it perfectly - incompetence!

Vangelovski · 11-29-2012, 12:54 AM

The latest example of UMD incompetence has been moved to its usual place.

Chiche · 11-29-2012, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by makedonche

Where's Chiche to comment on this? What sort of language does he think would be appropriate for this debacle? Does he consider UMD usefull Macedonians?

Here I am SWEET HEART, The UMD, Were very irresponsible with the omission of very pertinent FACTS! If it was ignorance we should forgive them, but I must say, intelligent people should never be so Wrong. You ask are they useful, well if they work to Deny the existence of our Name, People, our language and our Lands, NO they are not, that would make them Traitors to the Macedonian Soul. Can we teach these people what is right and wrong?? It appears yes as they did correct the Press Release, can we change what is in their Hearts, "Only time will tell".

Vangelovski · 11-29-2012, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiche

that would make them Traitors to the Macedonian Soul.

What's with the 'name calling' Chiche - that contradicts your philosophy.

Chiche · 11-29-2012, 08:27 PM

You must copy and paste the full sentence Lad! I did not call them Names.
"if they work to Deny the existence of our Name, People, our language and our Lands, NO they are not, that would make them Traitors to the Macedonian Soul"

This makes you as bad as them, the UMD, Lad! missing important facts.

makedonche · 11-29-2012, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiche

Here I am SWEET HEART, The UMD, Were very irresponsible with the omission of very pertinent FACTS! If it was ignorance we should forgive them, but I must say, intelligent people should never be so Wrong. You ask are they useful, well if they work to Deny the existence of our Name, People, our language and our Lands, NO they are not, that would make them Traitors to the Macedonian Soul. Can we teach these people what is right and wrong?? It appears yes as they did correct the Press Release, can we change what is in their Hearts, "Only time will tell".

Chiche
Thanks for your response! I used this as an example because the parties involved are well educated, prominent figures claiming to be acting in the best interests of all Macedonians. On many occasions their inappropriate conduct has been discussed with them and questioned in detail, great efforts were went to in order to get a clear and distinct message across to them in a civilised and orderly manner - on many occasions. My question to you now is "how many times do we speak to them nicely without profanities or name calling"? At what point do you dispense with the niceties and start calling "a spade", "a spade", how much damage do you allow them to do before you cut the cancer away from the rest of the body?

Phoenix · 11-29-2012, 08:31 PM

Chich you need to get off the fence, you've got so many splinters stuck in your arse that they could plant you in the Belanglo State Forest...

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11-28-2012, 08:12 PM	#6602
TrueMacedonian Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 3,809	It seems that having Vinozhito around in 2007 and 2008 was ok for the UMD. I am positive there are more press releases hanging around from 2009 and 2010 about Vinozhito in the UMD archives. Eugenia Natsoulidou's past remarks are all over the web. It is evident she is not only against Vinozhito but also puts them in a class of racists with the "Golden Dawn". Quite un-remarkable are Meto's claims that these were "oversights". 4 changes are not oversights. They are intentional ways to avoid using the name "Vinozhito" so as not to upset Eugenia. __________________ Slayer Of The Modern "greek" Myth!!!

11-29-2012, 12:54 AM	#6605
Vangelovski Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 8,520	The latest example of UMD incompetence has been moved to its usual place. __________________ If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14 The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John Adams

11-29-2012, 08:27 PM	#6608
Chiche Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 193	You must copy and paste the full sentence Lad! I did not call them Names. "if they work to Deny the existence of our Name, People, our language and our Lands, NO they are not, that would make them Traitors to the Macedonian Soul" This makes you as bad as them, the UMD, Lad! missing important facts. Last edited by Chiche; 11-29-2012 at 08:29 PM.

11-29-2012, 12:39 AM	#6604
United MKD Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 547	How many screw ups/contradictions can one organisation have? So many hidden agendas. George Vlahov's last e-mail said it perfectly - incompetence!

11-29-2012, 08:31 PM	#6610
Phoenix Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 4,668	Chich you need to get off the fence, you've got so many splinters stuck in your arse that they could plant you in the Belanglo State Forest...

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