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Old 12-23-2010, 12:11 AM   #5321
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Just to add you…the UMD…have your own web site to express your views if indeed it is what you wanted to do because your post has no expression so even this is unclear. Assuming your intent was to make public your views on this issue as stated you have your own web site and the UMD announcements thread on the MTO as well as a host of media outlets at your disposal. This thread should not have been created by the UMD.
The UMD for some odd reason will not go against the USA regarding anything to do with Macedonia. As an NGO what is stopping them from using our original flag (sonce) at all their events .. the very powerful Greek lobby? The very powerful Greek Orthodox Church? It was in Lambros's will?

YouTube - Greek Journalist

THEY HAVE ALMOST LOST ALL SUPPORT!
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Old 12-23-2010, 10:20 AM   #5322
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An important message from the Co-Founder and Vice President of the United Macedonian Diaspora, Aleksandar Mitreski. Click here:
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Old 12-23-2010, 11:22 AM   #5323
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What do you tell the 1,000's of non members when they ask why you REFUSE to criticize (NGO) the Government of the United States of America including Philip Reeker (UN matters) and often act without the support, knowledge or consent of your entire membership base? Do you EVER plan on holding elections?

Dictatorship? New World Order?

YouTube - Wikileaks expose American war crimes 2004-2009 - spsyed analyses Afghan War Diary logs

UMD PLEASE GIVE US YOUR TAKE ON THE ABOVE VIDEO PLEASE. YOU OPENLY SUPPORT US TERRORISM? DISGRACE!!!
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Old 12-23-2010, 05:13 PM   #5324
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Did you see that article about a lampshade from Nazi times? It`s unbelievable and shows the level of German brutality during WW-2;


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AT first glance it looks like any tatty old lampshade - the sort that are gathering dust in houses all over the world. Then you notice the weird, parchment-like fabric stretched over eight panels, so thin it is almost translucent. On closer inspection the yellowy material is marked with strange pores, filaments and patterns which look disturbingly like one thing only - HUMAN SKIN.

Surely it can't be?

"We've all heard the stories of the Nazi human lampshades."

There have been many fakes over the years but no proven examples of a real Nazi lamp made from the skin of Jewish prisoners in concentration camps during the Second World War. However, one crucial early scientific test set this lamp apart. When Mark, an American, sent a small piece away for DNA testing at Bode Technology near Washington DC it came back as "100 per cent human".

The first report of a Nazi skin lampshade was published on April 16, 1945, by Ann Stringer, a United Press International correspondent, after the fall of German leader Adolf Hitler, and the liberation of the notorious Buchenwald concentration camp near Weimar, on April 11. Prisoners had set up a table to display twisted items which were allegedly made in the camp - including pieces of tattooed human skin, shrunken heads, an ashtray made from a human pelvis ... and a lampshade made from human skin.

Ann wrote about the lampshade: "Two feet in diameter, 18in high and consisting of five panels made from the skin of a man's chest... I could see the pores and the unquestionably human skin lines."

The camp became famous for the Bitch Of Buchenwald, Ilse Koch, the wife of the commandant Karl Koch. Ilse was put on trial after the war for her sadistic abuse of prisoners. She was accused of skinning those with interesting tattoos and ordering others to rape one another in front of her. Her husband was executed by firing squad in 1945 and Ilse hanged herself in prison in 1967.

As part of his investigations Mark researched the history of the lamp mythology, visited Buchenwald and also met 92-year-old former US commander Albert G Rosenberg, one of the first to arrive at the camp in 1945. Mark said: "He recalled that there were many such objects at Buchenwald. The pathology block was a factory of human skin products."

The US commander who took over the camp is said to have taken the shade home. It has not been seen since.

Mark's contact Skip bought Mark's lamp in 2006 from Dave Dominici, a convicted cemetery bandit, who looted houses after Hurricane Katrina.

Asked what it was, Dave told Skip: "That's made from the skin of Jews. Collector's item, $35."

Published: 05 Nov 2010

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...uman-skin.html
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Old 12-23-2010, 10:32 PM   #5325
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Support the World Macedonian Diaspora today - Say NO to Washinton DC and the secret (Reeker) Macedonian agenda.
The all time anticorruption fighter MK throws a bribe…hahaha Batman…tried Macedonia failed tried English failed…I guess you had to try the only language they understand.

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Old 12-23-2010, 11:05 PM   #5326
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Not sure if I ever posted it here so better do that for the season. If you sit on the fence long enough (6 years) you'll end up with a Sorass.

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Old 12-23-2010, 11:42 PM   #5327
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An important message from the Co-Founder and Vice President of the United Macedonian Diaspora, Aleksandar Mitreski. Click here:
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Being one of the co-founders of the United Macedonian Diaspora (UMD), and serving as its Vice President since 2008, I can attest to the vital work that this organization has been doing since its foundation in 2004. We started this organization in order to promote the Macedonian interests, culture and history and defend it from those who constantly attack and deny our existence.


We just completed our 6th year in operation, but there are many years of global advocacy on Macedonian matters ahead of us. We are thinking globally, but acting locally. We are reaching out to communities worldwide to stand up and work for the cause. UMD is cultivating the next generation of young Macedonian leaders.


UMD is able to do this work because of you and the tireless work of many volunteers associated with UMD. Thank you for your strong support over the last six years! But UMD needs support going forward. As you saw in the e-mail from UMD Treasurer Denis Manevski last week, your secure online tax-deductible donation today to UMD will be DOUBLED by a generous donor - who challenged our organization to raise $25,000 before midnight on December 31st.


In less than one week, we have raised nearly $7,500! We need to raise $17,500 more before the fast approaching end of the year. Please help us meet that challenge, so that every single dollar you donate will be doubled, up to $25,000. Every dollar counts and every dollar helps towards our $25,000 goal including new memberships, renewal memberships, and donations to our Baba and Dedo Fund. Donations from U.S. and Canadian donors are tax-deductible. Click here. (Please Note: for Canadians, we advise mailing a donation so you can receive a tax-receipt)


The opposition to Macedonia is obvious but sometimes may not be so obvious if we keep our eyes closed or sit on the sidelines. One thing I am sure is that UMD is not sitting on the sidelines.


Macedonia's future has been blocked because of its right to self-determination, because it wants to remain as Macedonia, its language to remain as Macedonian, its identity and people to remain as Macedonian. Is this too much to ask? Absolutely not! Will we let our opponents dictate our identity and our future? Absolutely not! Only we, the Macedonians, can shape our future.


Macedonia's opponents attack the truth, because they fear justice.


Macedonia's opponents attack our identity, because we still exist.

Macedonia's opponents are blackmailing Macedonia in the global arena to hide their wrongdoings.

Unjustly, in the past, our side of the story has been buried with lies. That is why UMD has been at the forefront of the effort to educate various stakeholders, policy makers, and important entities about the simple truth. About our right to self-determination, about the lack of basic human rights afforded to our fellow Macedonians in the countries surrounding Macedonia, about our right to exist. Your secure online tax-deductible donation today is vital towards tomorrow's advocacy work that UMD will be doing for the Macedonian Cause in Washington, D.C., Brussels, Canberra, Ottawa, and Paris among other places.




Give $50 and it will be worth $100
Give $100 and it will be worth $200
Give $200 and it will be worth $400
Give $500 and it will be worth $1,000
We must accelerate our efforts, speaking with an even clearer and stronger voice to make absolutely certain that the United States, Australian, Canadian, and all NATO and EU governments stay focused on Macedonia. Next year we will work to press the international community to:


* Stand up for truth instead of Greece's and Bulgaria's outright lies.


* Stand up for full civil rights of Macedonians living in Southeast Europe.

* Stand up for justice, for those who have lost their private properties because they were Macedonians. These people deserve restitution of their private properties.


* Stand up against the blackmailing of Macedonia to change its sovereign name.


* Stand up for your right to self-identify as Macedonian.

* Guarantee the territorial integrity of Macedonia.


On all of these issues, you and I are on the front lines of the Macedonian cause.


UMD is a real grassroots group. No big benefactors, foreign bosses, or business interests set our agenda. We answer only to you, to our members, to the Macedonian community, to our conscience, and our cause.


Every dollar is leveraged into countless hours of volunteer work, and goes directly to advance the cause you hold so close to your heart.

If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me at (202) 756-2244 or [email protected].

Please support UMD today and help us meet our $25,000 challenge by midnight on December 31, 2010.


I can't wait to see what we will accomplish in 2011 and beyond.


From everyone at the United Macedonian Diaspora, we wish you a joyous and healthy holiday season. Среќна Нова Година, Честит Божик, и Честити Празници.


Sincerely,


Aleksandar Mitreski
Vice President


PS - Your secure online tax-deductible donation today to the UMD will go directly to advancing the Macedonian Cause. We encourage Canadian donors to send a donation via postal mail to ensure a tax-receipt. UMD is working to obtain its Australian charitable status.


If you would rather donate by check, please send your contribution to the address below:


United Macedonian Diaspora
1101 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW, 6th Floor
Washington, D.C. 20004


United Macedonian Diaspora
3555 St. Clair Avenue East
Toronto, ON, M1K 1L6
Canada


United Macedonian Diaspora
PO Box 2153
Hawthorn, Vic. 3122
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UMD is a real grassroots group. No big benefactors, foreign bosses, or business interests set our agenda. We answer only to you, to our members, to the Macedonian community, to our conscience, and our cause.
You barely answer to your members, you don't answer to the Macedonian community, you don't appear to have a conscience nor do you have a cause that you can define. That is 0 for 4.
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Old 12-24-2010, 12:26 AM   #5328
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UMD is a real grassroots group. No big benefactors, foreign bosses, or business interests set our agenda. We answer only to you, to our members, to the Macedonian community, to our conscience, and our cause.
Never having had an election, UMD does not answer to its members in any meaningful way and it certainly does not answer to the Macedonian community.

As for not having any big benefactors, what about the pro-Gligorov Bitove family? Or the TCA? 300 members worldwide do not account for Meto's salary, office space, boat cruises, annual talk fests, wirlwind trips around the world and various other "activities" to help their cause.

As for foreign bosses, how is it that UMD works against the cause that has been fought for by Macedonian patriots for at least 150 years now? How is it that UMD's policies and actions align with those of Brussels and Washington, and in some cases Athens?

And as RtG noted, we are still waiting for UMD to define what exactly its cause is!
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UMDiaspora.org,

I appreciate the trouble you went to by putting up a summary. I wish to advise you that the MTO admin. agrees with the overwhelming majority of our members where it concerns the compromising stance of the UMD on certain, critical, Macedonian issues. We still accept your presence here as you are Macedonians and support the Macedonian Cause on other issues. However, as you think of yourself a promotional channel on most days that refers enquiries to a weblink, you are not an interactive member (even though you do interact with others when it is in your benefit). You represent an organisation that is diametrically opposed to the MTO and the Macedonian Cause on critical issues.

Please refrain from creating new threads. Any new topic you wish to create is to be created here on this thread. All links that you post which lead to your website are to be coded. I trust you will oblige.
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Old 12-24-2010, 04:00 AM   #5330
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Yep the germans were inhumane to the jews much like the macedonian genocide carried on by the greeks.The greeks & the nazis are the same with one difference at least the nazis recognized the jews where as the greeks don't recognize the macedonians.
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