United Macedonia Diaspora - Page 251

Rogi · 02-18-2010, 02:04 AM

I don't know about that, media spin on an issue that only the Macedonian community cares about is unsustainable anyway and just wont have that much of a far-reaching effect.

It's behind the scenes where the opportunity lies, and where it most definitely is not being wasted.

Buktop · 02-18-2010, 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by slovenec zrinski

At least MP_MK is, as it seems, doing something other than go to war on the net. Even just one tiny article in one tiny local paper is better than spending 24h a day bitching on the internet about how others should work for Macedonia...

THANK YOU! It is good to know that there are still reasonable people here on the forum!

Buktop · 02-18-2010, 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Rogi

I don't know about that, media spin on an issue that only the Macedonian community cares about is unsustainable anyway and just wont have that much of a far-reaching effect.

It's behind the scenes where the opportunity lies, and where it most definitely is not being wasted.

I am sure the opposition and the voter base care very much whether their premier's are accused of racism, and inciting racial hatred... The strongest force you can have behind you are the voters.

Buktop · 02-18-2010, 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Vangelovski

MP, we still don't know who you supposedly represent (if anyone) or who supposedly supports you (again, if anyone).

You've made some sweeping claims on this forum, yet you havn't managed to deliver anything extraordinary. Now you're making claims that some unnamed Greek MP is leading an "international campaign" on something. I suppose you're here to save the day again?

So instead of contributing to the Rann campaign, or investigating this Greek movement you would rather bitch about UMD and attack MP for doing something, what a miserable person you are...

MP_MK · 02-18-2010, 02:11 AM

POLITICS 101:

If you want something to become a debate in politics- media and public outcry are your best friends.

Can I ask if you aware of the legal campaign on Rann? Do you think this campaign on Rann will bring the name recognition into the spotlight?

I assure you if there was a public out cry and the Macedonian Diaspora within Australia were networked correctly and on standby to act on command, then this would have blown out into the media. The opposition party would have not hesitated to use the mass outcry to their advantage, they would have moved quickly to secure the Macedonian vote and bring Rann to answer.

This is feedback I have received directly from the opposition and a number of Chief Producers on tv stations. The lack of Macedonian outcry and care on the matter is what makes it a non-event.

I assure you the name recognition would have been dragged into the spoptlight, if there was an out cry.

MP_MK · 02-18-2010, 02:12 AM

And Rogi: I understand you know politics, the lesson above was not directed at you, simply feedback I received first hand.

Vangelovski · 02-18-2010, 02:30 AM

Prolet,

Judging from MP's 'extraordinary intellectual prowess', 'demonstrated experience' and 'connections in the media and Macedonia', I'm sure he's already devised a cunning grand strategy to have Australia recognise Macedonia. Further, I'm sure he's also got the support of ALL the Australian Macedonian organisations for whatever he has cooked up. All we have to do is sit back and watch it unravel.

Vangelovski · 02-18-2010, 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Buktop

So instead of contributing to the Rann campaign, or investigating this Greek movement you would rather bitch about UMD and attack MP for doing something, what a miserable person you are...

Bucktop, until Danger Man reveals who this unnamed Greek MP is or the details of this "international campaign", I'm afraid our ability to "investigate" is limited, so we'll have to let him save the day.

MP_MK · 02-18-2010, 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Vangelovski

Prolet,

Judging from MP's 'extraordinary intellectual prowess', 'demonstrated experience' and 'connections in the media and Macedonia', I'm sure he's already devised a cunning grand strategy to have Australia recognise Macedonia. Further, I'm sure he's also got the support of ALL the Australian Macedonian organisations for whatever he has cooked up. All we have to do is sit back and watch it unravel.

Well that shouldn't be hard for you Vangelovski! You have proven your ability to sit back and watch.

Prolet · 02-18-2010, 02:33 AM

Vangelovski, I asked for your opinion dont pass the ball to MP for this one. Im sure you have your own opinion and i would like to hear it.

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02-18-2010, 02:11 AM	#2505
MP_MK Banned Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 332	POLITICS 101: If you want something to become a debate in politics- media and public outcry are your best friends. Can I ask if you aware of the legal campaign on Rann? Do you think this campaign on Rann will bring the name recognition into the spotlight? I assure you if there was a public out cry and the Macedonian Diaspora within Australia were networked correctly and on standby to act on command, then this would have blown out into the media. The opposition party would have not hesitated to use the mass outcry to their advantage, they would have moved quickly to secure the Macedonian vote and bring Rann to answer. This is feedback I have received directly from the opposition and a number of Chief Producers on tv stations. The lack of Macedonian outcry and care on the matter is what makes it a non-event. I assure you the name recognition would have been dragged into the spoptlight, if there was an out cry. Last edited by MP_MK; 02-18-2010 at 02:14 AM.

02-18-2010, 02:30 AM	#2507
Vangelovski Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 8,520	Prolet, Judging from MP's 'extraordinary intellectual prowess', 'demonstrated experience' and 'connections in the media and Macedonia', I'm sure he's already devised a cunning grand strategy to have Australia recognise Macedonia. Further, I'm sure he's also got the support of ALL the Australian Macedonian organisations for whatever he has cooked up. All we have to do is sit back and watch it unravel. __________________ If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14 The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John Adams

02-18-2010, 02:04 AM	#2501
Rogi Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 2,343	I don't know about that, media spin on an issue that only the Macedonian community cares about is unsustainable anyway and just wont have that much of a far-reaching effect. It's behind the scenes where the opportunity lies, and where it most definitely is not being wasted.

02-18-2010, 02:12 AM	#2506
MP_MK Banned Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 332	And Rogi: I understand you know politics, the lesson above was not directed at you, simply feedback I received first hand.

02-18-2010, 02:33 AM	#2510
Prolet Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 5,241	Vangelovski, I asked for your opinion dont pass the ball to MP for this one. Im sure you have your own opinion and i would like to hear it.

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