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View Poll Results: Do you consider the UMD as your representative for the Macedonian Diaspora?
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Old 01-13-2010, 06:03 AM   #1221
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As stated by UMD the board of directors were elected in 2008 and are to hold terms of 3 years. You claimed that you were a member 2 years ago, and that the bylaws were being formed while you were there, I am pretty sure that elections would be on the original draft of the bylaws. I do not dispute your membership at UMD, I want to know your exact date of resignation and the exact date of approval of the bylaws (which were being drafted while you were a board member, which means you had a direct role in drafting them) I don't think that is a tough question, or a relatively sensitive question to answer.
The Board was NOT elected in 2008 - the Board Members merely allocated themselves positions on the Board - no UMD member outside of the Board was even informed.

I did have a role in drafting the bylaws. You'll have to ask Meto the exact date they were adopted because I left before they were adopted.
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Old 01-13-2010, 06:04 AM   #1222
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Charlatan,

Your defence is blind. I just provided a quote where UMD specifically called on Greece to abide by the Accord.
And that means they support the accord? Or they are trying to beat Greece at their own game. You really must be clutching at straws if this is your whole argument...
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Old 01-13-2010, 06:06 AM   #1223
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And that means they support the accord? Or they are trying to beat Greece at their own game.
Wow...just wow
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Old 01-13-2010, 06:17 AM   #1224
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I did have a role in drafting the bylaws.
So how is it that you do not know the provision concerning elections? So why is it you claimed that you did not know the UMD bylaws? Why are you intentionally misrepresenting facts.
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How did you not know there were appointments or elections when as early as the beginning of February they were included in newsletters? You as a board member didn't know there would be appointments of board members? I find this very hard to believe...
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Old 01-13-2010, 06:19 AM   #1225
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So how is it that you do not know the provision concerning elections? So why is it you claimed that you did not know the UMD bylaws? Why are you intentionally misrepresenting facts.
How did you not know there were appointments or elections when as early as the beginning of February they were included in newsletters? You as a board member didn't know there would be appointments of board members? I find this very hard to believe...
Buktop, I never claimed I didn't know the bylaws specified elections, I said that there never have been elections.

Are you getting confused? Can you try reading the post before automatically posting back?
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Old 01-13-2010, 06:21 AM   #1226
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Do you have a reading disability?

A REPUBLICAN PARLIAMENT/GOVERNMENT HAS NO AUTHORITY TO DO ANYTHING BEYOND THAT WHICH IS EXPRESSLY PROVIDED FOR UNDER THE CONSTITUTION - THE MACEDONIAN CONSTITUTION DOES NOT PROVIDE IT WITH THE AUTHORITY TO NEGOTIATE WITH A FORIEGN STATE OVER THE CONTENTS OF THE CONSTITUTIION - HENCE IT IS NOT ALLOWD TO.
AND I ASKED YOU TO PROVIDE THE RELEVANT ARTICLES PROHIBITING THE ACTIONS TAKEN BY THE PARLIAMENTARIANS...

UNLESS OTHERWISE PROHIBITED BY THE CONSTITUTION, ACTIONS TAKEN BY THE PARLIAMENTARIANS ARE DESIGNATED TO BE WITHIN THEIR AUTHORITY...

The non-existence of clauses within the constitution does not prohibit action.
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Old 01-13-2010, 06:23 AM   #1227
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AND I ASKED YOU TO PROVIDE THE RELEVANT ARTICLES PROHIBITING THE ACTIONS TAKEN BY THE PARLIAMENTARIANS...

UNLESS OTHERWISE PROHIBITED BY THE CONSTITUTION, ACTIONS TAKEN BY THE PARLIAMENTARIANS ARE DESIGNATED TO BE WITHIN THEIR AUTHORITY...

The non-existence of clauses within the constitution does not prohibit action.
You're talking about a tyranny, where state power is absolute. I thought we were discussing a republic.

Charlatan, wait, I'll just go and lobotomise myself. Then maybe I'll be able to accept your ridiculous assumptions.
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Buktop, I never claimed I didn't know the bylaws specified elections, I said that there never have been elections. I knew that the board members (co-founders) appointed themselves - nobody else did, i.e., the normal members?

Are you getting confused?
Oh so you knew that the bylaws called for elections? Why then were you trying to make such a big fuss about it in the other thread? Did the bylaws not specify a 3 year term for board members? Or did you conveniently forget that part?
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Oh so you knew that the bylaws called for elections? Why then were you trying to make such a big fuss about it in the other thread? Did the bylaws not specify a 3 year term for board members? Or did you conveniently forget that part?
The Board was never elected - it appointed itself!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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