United Macedonia Diaspora

[TajnataKniga]

Originally Posted by Vangelovski

I was a co-founder of UMD, I'm quite aware of what the thinking is in the organisation.

r u proud u co-founded it? when did u leave?

[TajnataKniga]

hundreds of views & only 25 votes. sad.

[Phoenix]

Originally Posted by TajnataKniga

hundreds of views & only 25 votes. sad.

Kniga, sad is the fact that somebody thought a poll on this is necessary.

[TajnataKniga]

i disagree. i voted. r u afraid to vote?

[blackcactus]

Originally Posted by Vangelovski

I was a co-founder of UMD, I'm quite aware of what the thinking is in the organisation.

I see, your trying to find proof to show to others what you know of them

If so you will need proof that is black and white and potent, preferably proof of the results and work that they are mismanaging

But alluding to statements that can be interpreted many ways wont work as it only divides people, which harms us all

Cheers

[Phoenix]

Originally Posted by TajnataKniga

i disagree. i voted. r u afraid to vote?

kniga, don't be silly...

[indigen]

Originally Posted by Vangelovski

There's definitely some confusion around what UMD means by "solution", particularly when you look at its President's statements and their Press Releases.

IMO, for any Macedonian with an ounce of patriotic feeling and political nous, it is easily discerned that "UMD" is a Ramkovist support group, with all the related ideological baggage implied in belonging to such a political segment of Macedonian politics. This one-man band and cheering squad is heavily promoted by various Ramkovist political structures and media outlets in RoM and beyond in order to promote and endorse all past capitulations with a positive spin and to act - in the name of the Macedonian Diaspora - as a rubber stamp for FUTURE planned deconstruction agendas for Macedonia and the Macedonian ethno-national identity and historical heritage.

One does not need much more info than the following to know that this group is based on Ramkovist ideology:
UMD Remembers President Trajkovski

NB: BT (along with LG and BC) was the main political tool used by the authors of FA to see through its enactment and initial implementation and was correctly identified as a TRAITOR by ALL Macedonians with basic self-respect and national dignity.

[indigen]

Originally Posted by Rogi

Now, Dr. Igor Janev has proposed an excellent solution for Macedonia to have its' Constitutional name recognised at the UN.

The Macedonian Cause
Ensuring the absolute recognition, acknowledgement and acceptance by the International Community of the;

1) national, ethno-cultural and historic name of Macedonia,
2) Macedonian people, language and identity
3) Macedonian culture, symbols and folklore
4) Macedonian ancestry, heritage and history in its entirety
5) Macedonian Orthodox Church

Why do you, Rogi, continue to use misguided Gligorov era terminology that undermines our cause by implying that Macedonia and Macedonians have such shallow roots that do not reach past that of the 1991 Constitution?

[Phoenix]

Originally Posted by blackcactus

I see, your trying to find proof to show to others what you know of them

If so you will need proof that is black and white and potent, preferably proof of the results and work that they are mismanaging

But alluding to statements that can be interpreted many ways wont work as it only divides people, which harms us all

Cheers

Hi blackcactus,

this is the crux of the problem, any organization that claims to represent the masses can't afford to be labled "ambiguous".

[Vangelovski]

Here's another typical UMD statement:

The Prime Minister’s threat shows that Macedonia, or any other nation, cannot rely on the Hellenic Republic to honor its treaty obligations as this threat violates the 1995 Interim Agreement between the two nations...

Macedonia changed its flag, amended its constitution, and accepted the use of the provisional reference all pursuant to the Interim Agreement and has fully abided by such agreement...

The United Macedonian Diaspora urges Greece to end its diplomatic blackmail and abide by the rules to which it agreed to in the Interim Agreement...

http://umdiaspora.org/index.php?opti...d=309&Itemid=1