The European Union - the New Soviet Union?

[Daskalot]

Pavlos was killed by Mitre Vlahot in 1904, if my memory serves me right. You will exterminate noone.

[Sportster]

Originally Posted by Daskalot

You will exterminate noone.

hehehehe I like this..very smart. But hey that goes against the "Macedonia Genocide using napalms, knives and big ugly hairy TurkGreeks" scenario...eh what the heck its all crap anyway.

[Mikail]

Thanks for the short lived entertainment Sportster. No you can enjoy feeling the breeze through you arxithia as you ride your bitch bike in your fishnets

[Risto the Great]

I think Sportster had this forum mixed up with something else.
I hope he finds true happiness in another world because he is not for this one.

[The LION will ROAR]

The Macedonian Digest
“From the readers for the readers”
Edition 29 – May 2008
http://www.maknews.com/html/articles...digest_29.html


THE MONSTER THAT IS NATO

Put simply, Europe doesn't like the Orthodox Christian -Slav Russians. (France and Germany have both tried to conquer Russia on separate occasions, but Russia ended up defeating both of them!) Like Russia, Serbia and Macedonia too are Orthodox Christian -Slav nations! Get the drift?!
In 2004 Serbia and Macedonia were effectively "blocked" from their natural ally Russia when NATO "strategically" (cunningly) expanded by admitting a "wall of nations", seven new members in all!
Montenegro recently split from Serbia, and Serbia is now "land-locked". The Republic of Macedonia too is "land-locked". (Hmmm!!!)
NATO has created the "phony" state of Kosovo which is on Serbian territory!
*In fact the west has been creating anti-Russian/anti-Orthodox Christian -Slav buffer states since 1829! These also include:
The Southern Balkan (Mediterranean) Republic > "Artificial Greece".
The Eastern Balkan (Black Sea) Republic > "Artificial Bulgaria".
The Southern Balkan (Adriatic) Republic > "Artificial Albania". (Note: There is a Roman map from 117 AD, during the time of Emperor Trajan, which shows Albania being in central Asia!!!)
Bosnia-Herzegovina.
NATO, not surprisingly, has admitted two more non-Orthodox Christian -Slav states, "Artificial Albania" and Croatia.
NATO (speaking for "Artificial Greece") barred the Republic of Macedonia from joining its ranks, saying "until it settles the name dispute with Greece"! Reply: It is not Greece! The "Southern Balkan (Mediterranean) Republic" is an anti Orthodox Christian -"Slav"/Russian buffer state! In 1913 it was given the nod by the Western Powers of the time to illegally seize 51% of the Ottoman occupied Macedonian nation!
Artificial Greece has broken the 1995 Interim Agreement with the Republic of Macedonia. An Agreement which the Republic of Macedonia was "forced to sign in the first place under duress"!!! Excuse me, but the Republic of Macedonia, at least, should have been admitted into NATO under the reference FYROM!
It is time for the Republic of Macedonia to look after its own interests! (Since the outset it was always obvious that Artificial Greece was going to de-rail Macedonia at every opportunity. We should not be talking to them or listening to what they have to say. Don't believe them! Don't trust them!) The Republic of Macedonia must now take the appropriate counter measures it said it would if Artificial Greece vetoed its accession to NATO!
Furthermore, the Republic of Macedonia should:
-Recognize and establish ties with the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus.
-"Not Recognize" the 'phony state' of Kosovo. (The terrorists in Kosovo must, but don't, respect the 2001 UN recognized border agreement between Belgrade and Skopje).
If the US-Macedonia Military Pact turns out to be some "Mickey Mouse Agreement" which doesn't go far enough to protect our borders the Republic of Macedonia, along with Serbia, must turn to Russia and China!!! (Russians could even be descendants of Ancient Macedonians themselves! Although the Russians abandoned us in Berlin in 1878, the chess game is different now!)
Unless the EU racists recognize the Republic of Macedonia under its constitutional name RIGHT NOW, Macedonia should DITCH the EU! Why continue with the "bullshit EU reforms" when it is obvious that Artificial Greece will Veto our accession anyway! It is pointless! Macedonia can establish other trade links. They can turn to China, India, Russia, etc, etc. There are plenty of other options. (The racist EU should look at the appalling records of their own member states!)
Now that Artificial Albania is going to be a NATO member they should not bother with the Republic of Macedonia and should try to catch the bigger fish. They should be pushing for the recognition of the Albanians in Artificial Greece! (Chemeria!) Imagine how many there must be!!!
On a final note, who can blame the Russians from pointing their nukes at these NATO rogue states?!

BY ZAC I -THE FIRST

[Onur]

Originally Posted by The LION will ROAR

Furthermore, the Republic of Macedonia should:
-Recognize and establish ties with the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus.

Man, Greece goes mad if this would happen. I mean reeaalyy mad because current situation in Cyprus is their last desperate hope to realize "Enosis" one day in the future and what would happen if Macedonia destroys their hope even before Turkey does?

Actually, Turkey will force the world to recognize Turkish republic soon. We`ve waited long enough for that. EU and USA have to accept the ongoing fact for 37 years in the island otherwise there will be referendum in Cyprus in near future to join Turkey and we will annex it in the end to destroy their "Enosis" officially. This stupid Greek embargo forces us to that. If they continue to listen Greece, EU will face the consequences of this with the shame of accepting southern Greek side as a representative of whole island few years ago. Only thing which prevented us to that was the never-ending EU negotiations and i hope that this will be over soon.



Greek politicians know this too;

Turkey no longer regarded as ‘invader/occupier’ by UN, says Clerides;

Glafcos Clerides, a former leader of the Greek Cypriot administration, has suggested that the United Nations no longer considers Turkey an “invader/occupier” force due to the presence of its troops in the northern part of the divided island of Cyprus. "If Turkey had been accepted as an “invader/occupier,” its membership in the UN Security Council would not be possible, Clerides said in response to a question in an interview published on Saturday in Greek Cypriot daily Simerini.

Clerides: KKTC may be recognized if Cyprus issue not settled soon;

“In a couple of years, recognition [of the KKTC] will be on the agenda, too. The Greek side should formulate a Plan B, especially in the event of Eroğlu’s victory,” he was quoted as saying by the Greek Cypriot press. Clerides is known for his strong support for the reunification of the island in accordance with the Annan plan, which 65 percent of Turkish Cypriots accepted and 75 percent of Greek Cypriots rejected in a referendum.

17 April 2010, Saturday
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/

Originally Posted by The LION will ROAR

Macedonia should DITCH the EU! Why continue with the "bullshit EU reforms" when it is obvious that Artificial Greece will Veto our accession anyway! It is pointless! Macedonia can establish other trade links. They can turn to China, India, Russia, etc, etc. There are plenty of other options. (The racist EU should look at the appalling records of their own member states!)
Now that Artificial Albania is going to be a NATO member they should not bother with the Republic of Macedonia and should try to catch the bigger fish. They should be pushing for the recognition of the Albanians in Artificial Greece! (Chemeria!) Imagine how many there must be!!!
On a final note, who can blame the Russians from pointing their nukes at these NATO rogue states?!

The world is changing, thats for sure.

20 years ago, who would believe to the events we live today? USA, EU struggling with economical crisis while countries like India, China, Russia getting stronger. Middle-eastern countries will run out of oil in 40 years and Caucasus will be the new energy source of the world.



For example, Like whole cabinet of Russia including the president Dmitry Medvedev, ministers of Deputy, Foreign and Interior relations, Agriculture, Energy, Transportation and also presidents of Chechnya and Tataristan will be in Turkey tomorrow to sign billions of dollar agreements and projects;

Medvedev comes to Turkey with giant projects in his agenda

Russian President Dmitry Medvedev has billion-dollar projects in his agenda to discuss during his visit.

Turkey and Russia will discuss plans to introduce a visa-free regime, natural gas pipelines and construction of a nuclear power plant in Akkuyu district of southern coastal city of Mersin on the first day of Medvedev visit. Russia and Turkey will sign more than 20 agreements, including energy deals, the Kremlin's top foreign policy adviser Sergei Prikhodko said. In Ankara, Russia and Turkey will sign a cooperation memorandum to build and service a nuclear power station, Mr Prikhodko said, without providing further details.

According to Turkish diplomatic sources, during Medvedev’s visit a deal initialed between the two countries envisaging the elimination of visa requirements may be signed without waiting for the domestic confirmation process.

Russia and Turkey are becoming strategic partners, President Dmitry Medvedev said shortly before his visit to Ankara, due May 11-12. "First of all, we can say with conviction that Russian-Turkish ties are reaching the level of full-scale strategic partnership," the Russian leader said, adding that a declaration signed by the two presidents in Moscow in February 2009 testified to that. He also said Russia sees Turkey as a "good and reliable neighbor with whom we are happy to jointly build plans to further strengthen cooperation for the good of our countries' peoples." Medvedev said the two countries should aim at increasing bilateral trade three- to fivefold during the next five years, not only at the expense of raw materials but also through cooperation in hi-tech fields and mutual investment.

The planned South Stream and Blue Stream-2 natural gas pipelines, the construction of the Samsun-Ceyhan oil pipeline will be the other most critical issues of the talks. The two countries will also discuss ways to boost the mutual trade volume. Medvedev’s visit cheered the exporters in Turkey, too. A Russian-Turkish Business Forum will also be carried out in this framework Wednesday. Representatives of the business circles point that if concrete step can be dealt in this forum, a surge in trade volumes between the two countries is certain.

Russia is Turkey’s single biggest trading partner and provides two-thirds of its gas. The two countries have bilateral trade ties totaling some $40 billion. According to daily Zaman’s report an almost 15-percent discount in gas prices might be agreed during the negotiations.

Medvedev during his two-day visit starting Tuesday will chair the first meeting of High Level Strategic Cooperation Council, a new council for higher cooperation. Turkish-Russian ties have predominantly expanded on an economic basis, with gigantic energy deals and projects constituting the backbone of the growing cooperation. But Medvedev's visit is likely to be a cornerstone in introducing a political and strategic dimension to the growing ties. The two countries are also expected to discuss regional and international issues and bilateral relations in particular. Officials from the two countries will most probably talk about the situation in the southern Caucasus, with a special focus on the Nagorno-Karabakh problem between Azerbaijan and Armenia.

Russia is Turkey's main gas supplier and wants to build a section of its key South Stream pipeline through Turkey's portion of the Black Sea to create a new route for Russian gas to Europe that will bypass Ukraine. Turkey, which supports the rival EU-backed Nabucco pipeline, has agreed to allow Moscow to start surveys in its territorial waters in the Black Sea for South Stream.

Medvedev will be accompanied by a large number of businessmen and officials, and various agreements regarding energy, economy, agriculture and security are expected to be signed during the historic visit. In the 50-persons official delegation will include Chechnya President Ramazan Kadirov and Tatarstan President Mintimer Şaymiyev as well as Russian Deputy Prime Minister Igor Sechin, Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and Ministers of Interior, Agriculture, Energy, Transportation.

http://www.haberturk.com/general/hab...-in-his-agenda

I can easily say that this is a radical change on both Turkey`s and Russia`s foreign policy. Russia and Turkey never agreed on anything throughout history but it seems that this will change.

"Mutual elimination of visa requirements between Turkey and Russia"!!!! Man, few years ago, Turkish people was getting arrested in Russia with the accusation of being the member of Turkish intelligence service or a spy of NATO and quite same was true for some Russians in Turkey. Historically, we never trusted each other but now they want 73 million Turkey citizens to travel in Russia freely?? Thats really odd!

Turkey will also create new route for the pipelines together with Russia instead of EU-backed Nabucco project which completely bypasses Russia. This will be biggest blow and shock to the EU since Turkey is the only way to transport Caucasus oil and natural gas to the Europe and if we cease our support to their project, then they will be bound to Russia too as well as Turkey to get oil and natural gas. I am sure they wont like that since having dependency to Turkey for it was probably disturbing enough for them but now Russia will involve to it as well.



I fully agree to the article you posted TLWR. I also think that NATO served its purpose on cold-war days and its kinda dead coalition after that anyway. The future of EU doesn't look bright either. I think Macedonia should jump on the wagon for the new world order as well since i believe the future will be at east anymore, not with the old and crippled west.

[Makedonetz]

Onur the grass must be greener on the Turkish side of Cypris ;D

They had a show once on BBC discussing the situation in Cyprus and they showed these "Andarte's" cyprus form of greek soilders shooting road signs, even at a wedding the bride and groom were shooting off hand guns. Blazo grci

[I of Macedon]

Nigel Farage stands up to Globalist Sarkozy July 10, 2008.

YouTube - Nigel Farage stands up to Globalist Sarkozy July 10, 2008.

Let the People Decide their own Future - Nigel Farage MEP

YouTube - Let the People Decide their own Future - Nigel Farage MEP

Daniel Hannan MEP: The European Union is not safeguarding democracy

YouTube - Daniel Hannan MEP: The European Union is not safeguarding democracy

EU NATIONALISM - EVIDENCE OF THE PLAN FOR A SUPERSTATE

YouTube - EU NATIONALISM - EVIDENCE OF THE PLAN FOR A SUPERSTATE - MUST SEE!

Daniel Hannan on Turkish membership to the EU

YouTube - Daniel Hannan on Turkish membership to the EU

[I of Macedon]

Nigel Farage warns of euro meltdown in January 2009

Nigel Farage also warned of the problem with Greece and how Greece can't do anything about its impending problem...again this is back in January 2009.

YouTube - Nigel Farage warns of euro meltdown

EU Corruption

There is some laughs in this, mostly the joke the EU system is or is becoming

YouTube - EU Corruption

UKIP MEP Nigel Farage confronts José Manuel Barroso

YouTube - UKIP MEP Nigel Farage confronts José Manuel Barroso

[Onur]

Nigel Farage is an intelligent person. Daniel Hannan is also right about turkey`s membership to EU.

Turkey signed the first paper with EU in 1960s, they were economical union then. We are doing negotiations for full membership since 2004 and they keep inventing new excuses to keep us at their door forever but never allow us to enter. In the meantime, they accepted ex-communists like Bulgaria to the EU.

Hannan also right about losing an ally vs new potential totalitarian regimes. Majority of people in Turkey doesn't want EU anymore and we don't care if some freaking radical islamists attacks France or Germany as long as they don't touch us. We wont be their buffer anymore like they forced us to be vs communist Russia.

I didnt even know they criticised us for women political representation. LOL...
Like Hannan said, we had woman prime minister 15 years ago and Turkey gave full political rights to women, to vote and be elected at 1934, even before France did.