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Old 09-11-2008, 10:27 PM   #31
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Did the Paionians have their own language, or did they speak ancient "Greek"?
Why do I ask?

Did you know that the Paionians, Pelagonians, Lyncestians, etc (the Macedonian tribes from Upper Macedonians) had no communication problems (language, culture, etc) amongst the tribes of Upper Macedonia, nor with the Macedonian tribes from Lower Macedonia?


This is because they were they same Macedonian people, from different tribes.

In fact, they were related. Philip's (Philip II of Macedon) mother, Eurydice, was a Lyncestian.

Quite similar to the way that in Macedonia TODAY we have Mijaks and Brsjaks, both are Macedonian tribes.
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Old 09-12-2008, 07:30 AM   #32
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Did the Paionians have their own language, or did they speak ancient "Greek"?
We can't be sure about the Paonian language and its origin,since just some words ,names and place names survived (see above).

Some clasify it as Thracian,some as Illyrian,some as distinct ,but not as Macedonian or(/and?) Greek.
(although some of the kings' names are definitely Greek)


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Did you know that the Paionians, Pelagonians, Lyncestians, etc (the Macedonian tribes from Upper Macedonians) had no communication problems (language, culture, etc) amongst the tribes of Upper Macedonia, nor with the Macedonian tribes from Lower Macedonia?
It's false to summon up Paionians with Lyncestians for ex.According to sources Lyncestians,Pelagonians ...etc formed the Upper Macedonians.
Paionians NOT.
In fact Paionians-as Thracians were pushed north (and east for Thracians) by the Macedonians.

About communication-it s not easy to find in the sources "communications problems" between people-i m not aware abt such communication problems between Macs and Thracians ,or even macs and Indians(!) in the ancient sources.
Does this mean they were speaking the same language?

But not even the contrary means necessarily smthing -for ex there are noted communication problems between Ionian and Dorian Greeks.It might be a dialectical problem too.

Even if such problems were mentioned between Macedonians and Paionians , it wouldn t be alone enough to have a conclusion.

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Where is Bylazora the largest city of the Paeonians located?

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The location of Bylazora near the village of Knezje in Sveti Nikole (in eastern Macedonia, in the Ovče Pole plateau) was first carried out by the archaeologist and professor Ivan Mikulčić. Archaeological excavations have been carried out on the site over the past two decades, which has produced many interesting scientific discoveries.

The site was explored by archaeologists from the Texas Foundation for Archaeological and Historical Research (TFAHR), the Institute for Art History and Archeology of the Faculty of Arts in Skopje in collaboration with the National Museum of Sveti Nikole.

The latest research was led by Professor Dragi Mitrevski from the Institute of Art History and Archeology. The Macedonian archaeologists have layers from the 5th and 4th centuries BC. excavated.

Scholars say that at the time when Alexander the Great or Perdiccas II of Macedon ruled the Lower Macedonian kingdom, there could only be Paeonian rulers in this area. They had gained independence from the Macedonian Empire in order to protect it from attacks from the north.
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Old 03-26-2021, 11:43 AM   #34
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The royal tomb in https://arheoparkbrazda.mk/ is from the Argiane tribe. A massive city is there also leading archaeologist Viktor Lilclik went digging last year. In two days he found a wealth of material. Unfortunately he was chased away as much of the land it owned by Albanians. I think he has enough founds this year from the Diaspora to dig up the king valley. Around 10,000 royal graves from Paeonian rulers have known to be there for a number of years. Of course non of the governments ever funded the research.
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