United Macedonia Diaspora

[vicsinad]

Yes and no. No, in that individual NATO members can choose to use whatever name they want with Macedonia, and so can NATO if it chooses to. Yes, because countries generally aim at deferring to resolutions made under/with/through the UN...and Article 11 of the Interim Accord has that whole thing about Greece not blocking Macedonia from entering international organizations based on the established name in the IA. So UN members are more likely going to point to that bi-lateral, internationally (UN) respected agreement rather than not, whether they're doing so as part of NATO or another organization.

[Vangelovski]

Originally Posted by vicsinad

Yes and no. No, in that individual NATO members can choose to use whatever name they want with Macedonia, and so can NATO if it chooses to. Yes, because countries generally aim at deferring to resolutions made under/with/through the UN...and Article 11 of the Interim Accord has that whole thing about Greece not blocking Macedonia from entering international organizations based on the established name in the IA. So UN members are more likely going to point to that bi-lateral, internationally (UN) respected agreement rather than not, whether they're doing so as part of NATO or another organization.

Hmm...those splinters hurt don't they?

[vicsinad]

Originally Posted by Vangelovski

Hmm...those splinters hurt don't they?

It's called being objective. I know your ego doesn't have room for it, but I hope someone as scholarly as yourself would at least acknowledge that the world isn't black and white.

[Vangelovski]

Originally Posted by vicsinad

It's called being objective. I know your ego doesn't have room for it, but I hope someone as scholarly as yourself would at least acknowledge that the world isn't black and white.

No its called being contradictory, backtracking and basically having no idea what your on about. Or in American speak, flip-flopping. Objectivity has nothing to do with your comments. Do you need tweezers?

[vicsinad]

Originally Posted by Vangelovski

Do you need tweezers?

Is that what you use to stroke it when looking at Meto's pictures on the UMD website?

[Vangelovski]

Originally Posted by vicsinad

Is that what you use to stroke it when looking at Meto's pictures on the UMD website?

Victor, why is it that people like you, who cannot argue the substantive issue, always resort to penis jokes in the end?

[vicsinad]

Originally Posted by Vangelovski

Victor, why is it that people like you, who cannot argue the substantive issue, always resort to penis jokes in the end?

Tom, why is it that people like you, who cannot argue the substantive issue, always resort to labeling someone as being hypocritical, contradictory, and a back-tracker in the end?

[Vangelovski]

Originally Posted by vicsinad

Tom, why is it that people like you, who cannot argue the substantive issue, always resort to labeling someone as being hypocritical, contradictory, and a back-tracker in the end?

Victor, you still plagiarising? Remember when you had a big sook about other's supposedly not being creative? You are hypocritical, contradictory and a backtracker - and I've even shown you where and why (i.e., hypocritical just above). Now you're being intellectually dishonest - again!

[vicsinad]

1800s -- Turks slaughter tens of thousands Macedonians fighting for freedom from the Ottoman Empire
Mid-late 1800s -- Serbs, Greeks and Bulgars initiate assimilation of Macedonian people.
1913 -- Macedonia divided by her neighbors.
WW1 -- Macedonia suffers greatly by Bulgarian, Serb and Greek occupation
1900s in general -- Greeks kill, murder and ethnically cleanse Macedonians, and deny them the most fundamental of rights.
WW2 -- Bulgaria and Albania occupy Macedonia.
1948-1949-- Greece expels and cleanses tens of thousands of Macedonians.
1990s -- Greece forces Macedonia, after a blockade, to be called FYROM and to change its flag.
2001 -- terrorist and paramilitary Albanian groups strike in Macedonia

2011 -- the ICJ rules against Greece in a case between Macedonia and Greece.

What does Tom Vangelovski have to say about what happened in 2011?

“This is perhaps one of the darkest hours in the history of the struggle for Macedonian freedom.”

Only an egoistical, self-serving nationalist would even dare put the above court ruling in the same category as the real "dark hours" of Macedonia's history.

You're creativity is splendid in the above instance -- too bad it's sensational bullshit. You must be the star in your own soap opera.

[Soldier of Macedon]

Originally Posted by vicsinad

Only an egoistical, self-serving nationalist would even dare put the above court ruling in the same category as the real "dark hours" of Macedonia's history.

Are you denying it is a dark hour for Macedonia? Or do you think taking Greece to court to force them to accept us as FYROM was a good idea?