United Macedonia Diaspora - Page 559

makedonche · 02-27-2011, 06:19 PM

This is all pre-planned and has been for some time, the erection of statues and feel good propoganda was designed to pacify those who would not tolerate a name change. That's where all this money is coming from for infrastructure, statues etc., from the deal that was already done! Fckn traitorous c_nts!

Risto the Great · 02-27-2011, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill77

It will just make Gruevski more popular. You watch the poll ratings soar. I will say it again, we are a sick nation.

If that is the case Bill, the the Macedonians of the Republic are in fact the enemy of Macedonians in the Diaspora. I can't accept this .... yet.

Vangelovski · 02-27-2011, 06:36 PM

Even though we are familiar with UMD's position on these matters, I would like to see UMD's views on this letter, particularly since they were kind enough to post it here.

Bill77 · 02-27-2011, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Risto the Great

If that is the case Bill, the the Macedonians of the Republic are in fact the enemy of Macedonians in the Diaspora. I can't accept this .... yet.

What i can't accept, is one man controlling our destiny while the mass (mainly in the Republic) just go with the flow. So yes, i think the Macedonians of the Republic are in fact the enemy of Macedonia. I am so envious of the Egyptians and Lybians. Thats how you take destiny into your own hands. Thats how you save a nation.

Vangelovski · 02-27-2011, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill77

What i can't accept, is one man controlling our destiny while the mass (mainly in the Republic) just go with the flow. So yes, i think the Macedonians of the Republic are in fact the enemy of Macedonia. I am so envious of the Egyptians and Lybians. Thats how you take destiny into your own hands. Thats how you save a nation.

The Egyptians and Lybians have slowly worked through their own 'slave mentality' issues. Macedonians choose to ignore theirs for the sake of not 'hurting each others feelings'.

Niko777 · 02-27-2011, 06:58 PM

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The Egyptians and Lybians have slowly worked through their own 'slave mentality' issues. Macedonians choose to ignore theirs for the sake of not 'hurting each others feelings'.

There is a greater chance that the Albanians in Macedonia will do this one day than the Macedonians themselves.

Vangelovski · 02-27-2011, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Niko777

There is a greater chance that the Albanians in Macedonia will do this one day than the Macedonians themselves.

They already have. The proof is in the pudding - the Albanianisation of Macedonia.

Pelister · 02-27-2011, 07:18 PM

Looks like its not only Gruevski meddling with our identity, but the party as a whole has the same thing in mind. The Macedonians are being squeezed by foriegners, but the real pressure being put on the Macedonian Republic is coming from the Gruevski government who has intentionally chosen to give the Greeks an equal voice on this issue, and opened a back room door for them - while the Macedonian people get skrewed. Why engage an irrational idea, at the highest level of government and then export it onto the international stage? Gruevski does not have a political mandate to be negotiating our identity. He never made it a political issue. Like a snake he 'assumed' he had the permission of the people to do it, even though the Macedonian people were clearly against it, and continue to be against it.

Volk · 02-27-2011, 07:19 PM

What we have now in Macedonia is no serious political party willing to defend the Macedonian nation from external aggression.

This confirms Macedonia is one way or another under foreign occupation and oppression, whilst most of the populace is completely ignorant to the fact.

George S. · 02-27-2011, 07:24 PM

Given the stance of greece not removing the red line greece will never change.It wan'ts a mutually exclusive full use of the name macedonia herself.Greece will never be satisfied & our politicians are just puppets in their hands,they should never have negotiated or capitulated with the enemy.Our policicians are so weak that it's a complete joke they tremble at the sight of the UN & it's trickerry IT is literarly told how to behave well for once
it should tell these organizations where to get off & stop negotiating our identity.

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02-27-2011, 06:19 PM	#5581
makedonche Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Macedonian Colony of Australia Posts: 3,242	This is all pre-planned and has been for some time, the erection of statues and feel good propoganda was designed to pacify those who would not tolerate a name change. That's where all this money is coming from for infrastructure, statues etc., from the deal that was already done! Fckn traitorous c_nts! __________________ On Delchev's sarcophagus you can read the following inscription: "We swear the future generations to bury these sacred bones in the capital of Independent Macedonia. August 1923 Illinden"

02-27-2011, 06:36 PM	#5583
Vangelovski Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 8,509	Even though we are familiar with UMD's position on these matters, I would like to see UMD's views on this letter, particularly since they were kind enough to post it here. __________________ If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14 The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John Adams

02-27-2011, 07:18 PM	#5588
Pelister Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 2,742	Looks like its not only Gruevski meddling with our identity, but the party as a whole has the same thing in mind. The Macedonians are being squeezed by foriegners, but the real pressure being put on the Macedonian Republic is coming from the Gruevski government who has intentionally chosen to give the Greeks an equal voice on this issue, and opened a back room door for them - while the Macedonian people get skrewed. Why engage an irrational idea, at the highest level of government and then export it onto the international stage? Gruevski does not have a political mandate to be negotiating our identity. He never made it a political issue. Like a snake he 'assumed' he had the permission of the people to do it, even though the Macedonian people were clearly against it, and continue to be against it. Last edited by Pelister; 02-27-2011 at 07:20 PM.

02-27-2011, 07:19 PM	#5589
Volk Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 894	What we have now in Macedonia is no serious political party willing to defend the Macedonian nation from external aggression. This confirms Macedonia is one way or another under foreign occupation and oppression, whilst most of the populace is completely ignorant to the fact. __________________ Makedonija vo Srce

02-27-2011, 07:24 PM	#5590
George S. Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 10,116	Given the stance of greece not removing the red line greece will never change.It wan'ts a mutually exclusive full use of the name macedonia herself.Greece will never be satisfied & our politicians are just puppets in their hands,they should never have negotiated or capitulated with the enemy.Our policicians are so weak that it's a complete joke they tremble at the sight of the UN & it's trickerry IT is literarly told how to behave well for once it should tell these organizations where to get off & stop negotiating our identity. Last edited by George S.; 02-27-2011 at 07:27 PM. Reason: edit

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