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  • Bratot
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 2855

    Can you see the difference between Macedonian and Greek government position:

    Macedonian identity is part of the identity of every single Greek citizen and we will not negotiate on that, Greek Deputy Foreign Minister Dimitris Droutsas said.
    The purpose of the media is not to make you to think that the name must be changed, but to get you into debate - what name would suit us! - Bratot

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    • Prolet
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2009
      • 5241

      Bratot, I thought Todor Petrov has been very vocal against a name change, he even closed the borders in protest in the past remember??
      МАКЕДОНЕЦ си кога кавал ќе ти ја распара душата,зурла ќе ти го раскине срцето,кога секое влакно од кожата ќе ти се наежи кога ќе видиш шеснаесеткрако сонце,кога до коска ќе те заболи кога ќе слушнеш ПЈРМ,кога немаш ни за леб,а полн си во душата затоа што ја сакаш МАКЕДОНИЈА. МАКЕДОНИЈА во срце те носиме.

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      • Bratot
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2008
        • 2855

        Prolet, you chose in what to believe. Ja sum isprobal na svoja koza.




        Ne e problemot vo negovite inicijativi koi vaka odnadvor izgledaat sosem vo red, problemot e vo nacinot na koj se sproveduvaat. Vidi kolku narod sobira pod negova organizacija.

        Podobro ne pravi nishto, namesto slab i losh protest koj ke ne diskreditira.
        Last edited by Bratot; 02-01-2010, 08:28 AM.
        The purpose of the media is not to make you to think that the name must be changed, but to get you into debate - what name would suit us! - Bratot

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        • Prolet
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2009
          • 5241

          I dont see whats so bad about that?? Todor Petrov doesnt want a name change what else should he do?? He says that the question about our name was solved in 1991's referendum, i might be missing something here.
          МАКЕДОНЕЦ си кога кавал ќе ти ја распара душата,зурла ќе ти го раскине срцето,кога секое влакно од кожата ќе ти се наежи кога ќе видиш шеснаесеткрако сонце,кога до коска ќе те заболи кога ќе слушнеш ПЈРМ,кога немаш ни за леб,а полн си во душата затоа што ја сакаш МАКЕДОНИЈА. МАКЕДОНИЈА во срце те носиме.

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          • Bratot
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2008
            • 2855

            That's problem with most Macedonians.
            The purpose of the media is not to make you to think that the name must be changed, but to get you into debate - what name would suit us! - Bratot

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            • Prolet
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2009
              • 5241

              Bratot, Todor Petrov has been fighting for his whole career on Macedonians from Egejska,Pirinska and Mala Prespa. He is a big defender of the name, sure some could argue that he is not capable of running an organization like WMC but why would he want to sabotage our cause??
              МАКЕДОНЕЦ си кога кавал ќе ти ја распара душата,зурла ќе ти го раскине срцето,кога секое влакно од кожата ќе ти се наежи кога ќе видиш шеснаесеткрако сонце,кога до коска ќе те заболи кога ќе слушнеш ПЈРМ,кога немаш ни за леб,а полн си во душата затоа што ја сакаш МАКЕДОНИЈА. МАКЕДОНИЈА во срце те носиме.

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              • Bratot
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2008
                • 2855

                Prolet no offence mate, but the believes and the logic not always match up.

                That's what I'm saying, that he built up an career by defending our cause... !?!?!?

                Do you get the point?

                He has a political value, he plays the role of the radical for DPMNE.
                The purpose of the media is not to make you to think that the name must be changed, but to get you into debate - what name would suit us! - Bratot

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                • Buktop
                  Member
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 934

                  Originally posted by Vangelovski View Post
                  ???????? Buktop, make up your mind on whether I was useful to the cause or not. You're flip-flopping is worse than Meto's.
                  Your attitude is not
                  "I'm happy to answer any question and I don't hide from that"

                  Never once say you walk upon your final way
                  though skies of steel obscure the blue of day.
                  Our long awaited hour will draw near
                  and our footsteps will thunder - We are Here!

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                  • Buktop
                    Member
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 934

                    Originally posted by Phoenix View Post
                    You're a clown Buktop, not too long ago you were happy that Vangelovski was no longer part of UMD...
                    Get real Phoenix
                    "I'm happy to answer any question and I don't hide from that"

                    Never once say you walk upon your final way
                    though skies of steel obscure the blue of day.
                    Our long awaited hour will draw near
                    and our footsteps will thunder - We are Here!

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                    • UMDiaspora.org
                      Member
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 525

                      Last night's D.C. Premiere of A Name is A Name was a smashing success! We had just a little over 250 people attend. The theater was completely full. There was a very diverse crowd of attendees of all different ethnic and professional backgrounds - great networking opportunity for all who attended. Macedonians traveled from Connecticut, Ohio, Maryland, Virginia, and Macedonia to be there! UMD was very pleased! The Director Sigurjon Einarsson and Producer Jason Miko did a phenomenal job with the film, and during the Question and Answer Session. BRAVO to them for giving us Macedonians a vehicle, through film, for expressing ourselves about our ancestral and rightful name Macedonia.

                      The photography is working on editing the pictures from last night's premiere and we'll have them published soon along with a formal write-up on the event.

                      UMD will be organizing a Chicago premiere in June (TBA), and a screening of the film on June 3, 2010 during the 2nd Annual UMD Global Conference at the Sheraton Centre Hotel in downtown Toronto. The Director and Producer will be attending both. Stay tuned...
                      For comments, questions, concerns, please contact us at:

                      United Macedonian Diaspora
                      http://www.umdiaspora.org

                      1101 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW, 6th Floor, Washington, D.C. 20004, United States
                      Phone: (202) 756-2244, Fax: (202) 756-7323, E-mail: [email protected]

                      PO Box 2153, Hawthorn, Vic. 3122, Australia
                      Phone: 0438 385 466, E-mail: [email protected]

                      3555 St. Clair Avenue East, Toronto, ON, M1K 1L6, Canada
                      Phone: 416-209-0448, E-mail: [email protected]

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                      • Soldier of Macedon
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 13670

                        What is your opinion of the film, does it accurately describe the Macedonians?

                        Are you satisfied with the whole film? Appreciate your thoughts.**


                        **No, this is not a loaded question. And no, do not refer me to some link. You can choose to not answer if you don't wish to, that's fine, so long as you remember that perception is everything.
                        In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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                        • UMDiaspora.org
                          Member
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 525

                          SoM, UMD was very pleased and satisfied with the film! Basically, the director went around the country and interviewed a lot of people about Macedonia's name, including the Prime Minister, archeologists, artists, Mayors, young Macedonians, a Baba (she was the best in the entire film!!!). The conclusion of the film was that Macedonians will not allow a change to their name, and they all conveyed their reasons why. It was a very very positive film and is probably one of the best vehicles of conveying the Macedonian story to the international community.

                          The film received several ovations throughout the evening, and the questions and answer session with the Director and Producer also received numerous ovations, including a standing ovation at the conclusion of the film. All we can say is WOW!

                          The Director and Producer will be in Australia for the Sydney Premiere on February 26th.

                          Hope this answered your questions.
                          For comments, questions, concerns, please contact us at:

                          United Macedonian Diaspora
                          http://www.umdiaspora.org

                          1101 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW, 6th Floor, Washington, D.C. 20004, United States
                          Phone: (202) 756-2244, Fax: (202) 756-7323, E-mail: [email protected]

                          PO Box 2153, Hawthorn, Vic. 3122, Australia
                          Phone: 0438 385 466, E-mail: [email protected]

                          3555 St. Clair Avenue East, Toronto, ON, M1K 1L6, Canada
                          Phone: 416-209-0448, E-mail: [email protected]

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                          • UMDiaspora.org
                            Member
                            • Oct 2009
                            • 525

                            See video on right hand side under video of the day: http://www.voanews.com/macedonian/
                            For comments, questions, concerns, please contact us at:

                            United Macedonian Diaspora
                            http://www.umdiaspora.org

                            1101 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW, 6th Floor, Washington, D.C. 20004, United States
                            Phone: (202) 756-2244, Fax: (202) 756-7323, E-mail: [email protected]

                            PO Box 2153, Hawthorn, Vic. 3122, Australia
                            Phone: 0438 385 466, E-mail: [email protected]

                            3555 St. Clair Avenue East, Toronto, ON, M1K 1L6, Canada
                            Phone: 416-209-0448, E-mail: [email protected]

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                            • aleksandrov
                              Member
                              • Feb 2010
                              • 558

                              Originally posted by Buktop View Post
                              Why does my name concern you so much? What does my name have to do with the content of my posts?

                              My defense is not blind and I have answered that question several times already, no I am not a UMD member or board member. Not apologizing for anything,
                              It is quite normal, even in the most formal forums, such as courts and parliaments, to consider the intentions and credibility of the persons making an argument, and especially a contentious statement or accusation, in assessing the argument, statement or accusation itself. So it's surprising that you might not understand why your true identity is important in evaluating your persistently touchy, offensive and often reason-defying reactions to criticisms of UMD and Macedonian Government (or is it US?) policy.

                              You may well have good reasons for to concealing your true identity, but you cannot reasonably insist that that's not an important matter.


                              ...you have yet to show where UMD supports the interim accord or framework agreement other than your misinterpreted quotes.
                              Let's deal with one thing at a time here.

                              Indigen has on at least two (maybe three) occasions posted this link to a UMD public statement on the UMD website, which says:

                              "President Trajkovski stood behind his people through many trials and tribulations. His thoughts are prevalent even today. “The [Framework] Agreement is not perfect, but no agreement ever is…It is the best thing we have right now…The alternative is division at all levels: civil, inter-ethnic, political and generational…The alternative to peace is war, which will expose everyone to mass casualties, misery and a loss of perspective for many years to come,” said President Trajkovski in 2001. Republic of Macedonia knocks on the door to NATO membership and is an EU member candidate. United Macedonian Diaspora encourages the Macedonian government, political opposition, and civil society not to forget the words of President Trajkovski and to continue towards the much-needed progress and reforms to ensure admission into all Euro-Atlantic institutions."

                              Do you see this apparent UMD public statement as a clear endorsement of the "Framework Agreement" or not?

                              If you are indeed an active UMD member, which is reasonable to suspect, you would do your organization a much greater service by either defending that policy with facts and reasoned arguments or remaining silent when it is criticized, than by futile, disingenuous and offensive denial of its very public existence.
                              All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. Arthur Schopenhauer

                              https://www.facebook.com/igor.a.aleksandrov?ref=tn_tnmn

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                              • Prolet
                                Senior Member
                                • Sep 2009
                                • 5241

                                There was a Greek Guy who watched it that was not very impressed because in the film it said that Aleksandar the Great was Macedonian.

                                Anything to add UMD?
                                МАКЕДОНЕЦ си кога кавал ќе ти ја распара душата,зурла ќе ти го раскине срцето,кога секое влакно од кожата ќе ти се наежи кога ќе видиш шеснаесеткрако сонце,кога до коска ќе те заболи кога ќе слушнеш ПЈРМ,кога немаш ни за леб,а полн си во душата затоа што ја сакаш МАКЕДОНИЈА. МАКЕДОНИЈА во срце те носиме.

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